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Unread 12-29-2009, 02:47 PM
 
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Well, seeing how it is a form of immigration that will just continue on...we have to acknowledge it and figure out a way to better integrate them into society.
Illegally entering the United States is not a form of immigration. It is a form of lawbreaking and a violation of this country's immigration laws.

We need to send these foreign lawbreakers back to thier home countries so they can re-integrate back into their own societies.
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Unread 12-29-2009, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Illegally entering the United States is not a form of immigration. It is a form of lawbreaking and a violation of this country's immigration laws.

We need to send these foreign lawbreakers back to thier home countries so they can re-integrate back into their own societies.
Great point and accurate...
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Unread 12-29-2009, 02:55 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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wow. i dont think any educated person would agree with this comment.

yes, lets limit our language aqcuisition.
who really needs to be conversant in anything other than english?

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Oh, and what is wrong with being a monolingual society especially since the U.S.'s language is the most common language used across the world and for business?

It is unimportant what other countries encourage or don't encourage. We have done just fine as a monolingual country. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Unread 12-29-2009, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Pa
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wow. i dont think any educated person would agree with this comment.

yes, lets limit our language aqcuisition.
who really needs to be conversant in anything other than english?
If one intends to immigrate to another country it helps to be able to speak the language of said nation. Quite simply it is unreasonable to expect the host nation to adapt to you.
That said being bi-lingual has its advantages. I am able to speak passable Thai and some Tagalog. Not to shabby for a farm boy raised in the sticks.
Not many of us feel that being bi-lingual is a bad thing. What most of us take exception to is the notion of it being forced upon us to appease one segment of our population. The same segment which represents the majority of illegals.
It is not unreasonable to expect all prospective immigrants to be able to communicate in English. The language of business in this country. The common language of this country.
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Unread 12-29-2009, 03:25 PM
 
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wow. i dont think any educated person would agree with this comment.

yes, lets limit our language aqcuisition.
who really needs to be conversant in anything other than english?
Well you are wrong. I am educated and I know many other educated people who feel the way that I do. I never said one shouldn't learn another language if they so choose, just that it mostly isn't necessary in this country. We certainly shouldn't have the language of illegal invaders forced upon us which is just what is happening.
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Unread 12-29-2009, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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wow. i dont think any educated person would agree with this comment.

yes, lets limit our language aqcuisition.
who really needs to be conversant in anything other than english?
Let us Americans decide of we want a second official language. Face it: the lingua franca of the world is English. It is the language of educated people who wish to communcate with one another--------not Spanish, French, Chinese, etc.
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Unread 12-29-2009, 03:42 PM
 
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Third Worlders as macmeal has stated on many an occasion (sp) preceive civilized behavior as a source of weakness hence the growing need to play hardball with illegal aliens.
This doesn't even make sense!
This is YOUR GUYS' preconceived notions. It's you guys' OPINION.
It's like you guys are having a conversation with yourselves.

"Illegals hate us and they laugh at our laws! We let them use our services so they should respect us! They're not respecting us..they're just laughing more! Let's play hardball!!"
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Unread 12-29-2009, 03:47 PM
 
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This doesn't even make sense!
This is YOUR GUYS' preconceived notions. It's you guys' OPINION.
It's like you guys are having a conversation with yourselves.

"Illegals hate us and they laugh at our laws! We let them use our services so they should respect us! They're not respecting us..they're just laughing more! Let's play hardball!!"
Not opinion at all. Countries like Mexico and other third world countries commonly thrive on lawlessness and corruption. It is a learned and accepted way of life by many of their citizens and in particular their poor trying to scratch out a living. Then they bring that attitude up here which is obvious by their violation of our immigration laws.
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Unread 12-29-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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This doesn't even make sense!
This is YOUR GUYS' preconceived notions. It's you guys' OPINION.
It's like you guys are having a conversation with yourselves.

"Illegals hate us and they laugh at our laws! We let them use our services so they should respect us! They're not respecting us..they're just laughing more! Let's play hardball!!"
Is it my opinion that Juarez is pleading for help from the UN since the Mx authorities are unable to control/destroy the drug cartels??

Google Juarez blue helmets
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Unread 12-29-2009, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Pa
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This doesn't even make sense!
This is YOUR GUYS' preconceived notions. It's you guys' OPINION.
It's like you guys are having a conversation with yourselves.

"Illegals hate us and they laugh at our laws! We let them use our services so they should respect us! They're not respecting us..they're just laughing more! Let's play hardball!!"
Are you saying that Illegals have not ignored our laws? Are you saying that ignoring our laws is how they show respect?
You see where I come from when folks ignore certain laws its because they don't value said law as valid.
Sort of like a 35mph speed limit on a back road. Well then some dumb kid runs out there after a ball and whack gets hit by a car doing 60mph. Where as had the car been doing 35 mph most likely would have stopped in time.
It is about respect and lack of respect.
It is about illegals feeling entitled. Why else demand special consideration?
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