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Old 01-06-2010, 10:59 AM
 
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And how do we know if any have or havn't? Its not like they will advertise it.
A well known fact is that during the cold war the Mexican border was the Soviets favorite route to sneak people in. I have no doubt that the Russian Mafia also likes this route.
Most Soviets entered legally. We also know that the number was greatly exaggerated (thanks McCarthyism!)

We know this since most of terrorists that have done anything came via airplanes and through our international airports. It is more likely that terrorists will come in via legal means initially.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:09 AM
 
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Most Soviets entered legally. We also know that the number was greatly exaggerated (thanks McCarthyism!)

We know this since most of terrorists that have done anything came via airplanes and through our international airports. It is more likely that terrorists will come in via legal means initially.
Like I said. We really don't know because we can't track illegals. We don't even know how many illegals we actually have in this country.
There can be no doubt that terrorist orgs can see this weak spot in our defences. How could they not?
We need to secure the border for a number of reasons. To stem the flow of illegals, drugs and to eliminate an easy entry point for those who would seek to harm us.
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:38 PM
 
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Soviet Spetnaz units and intelligence agents did indeed use the US-Mexico border, in fact they had plans to sneak in Spetnaz units to attack the oil refineries and such in SE Texas via the Mexican border in the event of war with the US. They also infiltrated via Alaska as well ... this is proven fact, the Eskimo Scouts of the Alaska Army National Guard found evidence of this on many patrols. At least 1 scout was KIA in an encounter with Soviet troops.
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:57 AM
 
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Like I said. We really don't know because we can't track illegals. We don't even know how many illegals we actually have in this country.
There can be no doubt that terrorist orgs can see this weak spot in our defences. How could they not?
We need to secure the border for a number of reasons. To stem the flow of illegals, drugs and to eliminate an easy entry point for those who would seek to harm us.
You are aware of the fact that most Soviets and most terrorists came in from our international airports.

Drugs would not be curbed by securing our border.

I agree we need to secure the border, but not for these reasons. I also think that we may have different ways of securing the border as well.
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:10 AM
 
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And how do we know if any have or havn't? Its not like they will advertise it.
A well known fact is that during the cold war the Mexican border was the Soviets favorite route to sneak people in. I have no doubt that the Russian Mafia also likes this route.
It was reported by the FBI Director Robert Mueller that before OTM's were being detained at our southern border that there were 100's of thousand of illegals that snuck through from known terrorist countries and disappeared into our country. We are a ticking time bomb with unsecured borders.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:29 PM
 
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It was reported by the FBI Director Robert Mueller that before OTM's were being detained at our southern border that there were 100's of thousand of illegals that snuck through from known terrorist countries and disappeared into our country. We are a ticking time bomb with unsecured borders.
Link?
Hundreds of thousands sounds a bit ridiculous.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:58 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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It’s time to take off the gloves.


Assaults on Border Patrol agents increase dramatically | The Sierra Vista Herald (http://www.svherald.com/content/news/2009/12/29/assaults-border-patrol-agents-increase-dramatically - broken link)

maybe if the border control agents start shooting back at criminal aliens the incidents will go down?
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:59 PM
 
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Itís time to take off the gloves.


Assaults on Border Patrol agents increase dramatically | The Sierra Vista Herald (http://www.svherald.com/content/news/2009/12/29/assaults-border-patrol-agents-increase-dramatically - broken link)
If they can't stop a few mexicans throwing rocks... they should be fired.
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:05 PM
 
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If they can't stop a few mexicans throwing rocks... they should be fired.
Sounds like you are a volunteer to go there and get thrown at while you aren't allowed to defend yourself. Good for you.
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:38 PM
 
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Link?
Hundreds of thousands sounds a bit ridiculous.
I would be happy to provide you the link but unfortunately it is no longer available for the obvious reason that our government doesn't want us to know about it.
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