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Old 05-21-2007, 11:47 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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The politicians keep referring to the $5K fee that they would have to pay. Is this per household or per person? If they pay this fine, wouldn't they be able to file income taxes(presumably since they have legal status) and get refunded all of their tax $$ back espec if they have kids and stay at home spouse?
If they have legal status, are they eligible to receive financial welfare?

I've also read that the fine is "UP TO $5K". I also read that Sen john cornyn of tx had a brawl with traitor mccain concerning that illegals could APPEAL payment of the $5k fine. I can just imagine all of the immigration courts being backlogged with those claiming not being able to pay. I wish that I could that with my income taxes.
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Coming soon to a town near YOU!
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Default Hard to say

Since they have not yet written the final (or any) version, everything could change. There is a valid arguement for both...

You already made a case for it being per family

The per individual could be because they said that they will be reducing "family claims" for residency (that basically means, "I'm a citizen, so now my dad can apply and come over too" etc)
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:56 AM
 
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One of the senators interviewed on cable news also said the 5 thousand could be paid over four or five years.
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:33 AM
 
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I think I read in Christian science monitor (I am pretty sure) that the fee was $1500 per person and a cap of $5000 per family.
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:45 AM
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Location: Sebastian/ FL
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The politicians keep referring to the $5K fee that they would have to pay. Is this per household or per person? If they pay this fine, wouldn't they be able to file income taxes(presumably since they have legal status) and get refunded all of their tax $$ back espec if they have kids and stay at home spouse?
If they have legal status, are they eligible to receive financial welfare?

I've also read that the fine is "UP TO $5K". I also read that Sen john cornyn of tx had a brawl with traitor mccain concerning that illegals could APPEAL payment of the $5k fine. I can just imagine all of the immigration courts being backlogged with those claiming not being able to pay. I wish that I could that with my income taxes.

Seen a show on tv last night about that, and that came up. From what they were saying,and how I understud, it would be $5k per illegal person in the family (parents, children excluded).
They interviewed a married couple, both here illegal, and they said they cant affort to pay $10,000.00, from what they are making. So, they also said, they didn't THINK they should pay, because their children are anchor babies born US citizens!!!
Also, are they worried if they would go back to mexico, to comply with the immigration reform bill, that the US wouldn't let them back in.
As of yesterday did that couple say, they will continue to reside here ...illegal...until the US government comes up with a better solution suiting THEM!!!!!
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:56 AM
 
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I am also worried about this part of the bill:

"In addition, the cap for high-skilled workers admitted under the H-1B visa program will be increased from 65,000 to 115,000 annually – a flash point for lawmakers concerned about the impact of such a move on wages and job prospects for US high-tech workers.

In an early warning sign on this issue, Sens. Grassley and Richard Durbin (D) of Illinois, the No. 2 Democratic leader, called on the top nine foreign-based companies that use H-1B visas to disclose details about their workforce. Democratic staff members say they are expecting a floor fight on the program."

I think this is from chicago trib or CSM...

Watch this subject closely, I could see this passing and slipping by because everyone is so upset about the mexican immigration problems, which are more high profile.

"google" H1B visa abuse sometime and read.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:00 AM
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I am also worried about this part of the bill:

"In addition, the cap for high-skilled workers admitted under the H-1B visa program will be increased from 65,000 to 115,000 annually a flash point for lawmakers concerned about the impact of such a move on wages and job prospects for US high-tech workers.

In an early warning sign on this issue, Sens. Grassley and Richard Durbin (D) of Illinois, the No. 2 Democratic leader, called on the top nine foreign-based companies that use H-1B visas to disclose details about their workforce. Democratic staff members say they are expecting a floor fight on the program."

I think this is from chicago trib or CSM...

Watch this subject closely, I could see this passing and slipping by because everyone is so upset about the mexican immigration problems, which are more high profile.

"google" H1B visa abuse sometime and read.
Are you sure, I should read that, and probably get my blood pressure up??? LOL
Whatever is written there, is more then likely filled with one loophole after another, benefiting the ones which are more then less deserving.
Isn't that always the case anymore?
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