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Old 05-22-2007, 02:07 AM
 
Location: Tennessee/Michigan
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With the announcement from Washington on Thursday of a possible compromise bill that would allow millions of illegal immigrants in the United States to become legal and start the process to become citizens, ABC News spoke with several economists about the potential economic impact of this plan.

For the most part, the consensus was that "most of the impact is already there" as Giovanni Peri, a economics professor at the University of California in Davis, described it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Indus...3189288&page=1
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Old 05-22-2007, 03:06 AM
 
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Yes, they will take jobs away from US citizens. They are shifting the focus to educated immigrants. So basically we are all full up of uneducated illegals who steal entry level jobs, so the Senate wants to bring in some immigrants who will compete with educated Americans, like accountants, IT specialists, and truck drivers. Even call center customer service jobs would fall under this classification because they would be bilingual. Of course they will be willing to work for less money. Driving wages down across the board.

Plus don't forget, this will do nothing to stop illegals from coming here. It will attract even more of them because they know sooner or later they too will be legalized.
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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They already are taking jobs for Citizens.
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Old 05-24-2007, 02:49 PM
 
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They already are taking jobs for Citizens.
Really doesnt anyone else notice that?
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:03 AM
 
Location: California
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making them citizens will open the door for them to take more jobs and drive down wages even further.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:33 PM
 
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Really doesnt anyone else notice that?
Well, I guess the OP doesn't as it is he who posted the thread. However, I do agree w/you....who doesn't think these illegal invaders are already taking jobs away from US citizens....
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Coming soon to a town near YOU!
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Isn't there an upside to "lower wages"?

That means it won't cost you as much to get your yard maintained or your home built... That is of course unless a fat-cat pockets the savings and keeps charging you the same rate.

I am not an economist so I don't know if the gain will equal the loss (although I have read several scholarly articles by Economists who do say that the benefit is greater than the loss), but don't you agree that there will be at least some tangible benefit?

Making "illegals" legal means more money into the tax base, health care system, etc.
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Old 05-27-2007, 03:15 PM
 
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Isn't there an upside to "lower wages"?

That means it won't cost you as much to get your yard maintained or your home built... That is of course unless a fat-cat pockets the savings and keeps charging you the same rate.

I am not an economist so I don't know if the gain will equal the loss (although I have read several scholarly articles by Economists who do say that the benefit is greater than the loss), but don't you agree that there will be at least some tangible benefit?

Making "illegals" legal means more money into the tax base, health care system, etc.
Wow...come to California and see the hell that is health care for the poor.
Waiting 6 months and more for appointment they give you, standing 9 long hours whether you have an appointment or not (those in walkers, on crutches all leave), bad quality care often, treated by assistants. Some lab test result numbers will read 'normal' while regular ER's and private physician's lab tests read 'abnormal' on same test so that people are not treated for heart disease, cancer, etc. soon enough. All this due to illegals ruining our health care system and every other system.
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Conservative in Liberal California
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Isn't there an upside to "lower wages"?

That means it won't cost you as much to get your yard maintained or your home built... That is of course unless a fat-cat pockets the savings and keeps charging you the same rate.

I am not an economist so I don't know if the gain will equal the loss (although I have read several scholarly articles by Economists who do say that the benefit is greater than the loss), but don't you agree that there will be at least some tangible benefit?

Making "illegals" legal means more money into the tax base, health care system, etc.
NO! NO! NO! It is going to lower our standard of living! They will work cheaper than U.S. Citizens, thus lowering the wages...the Middle Class is going to suffer worse than anyone. I live in California and see first hand how things have gone from bad to worse. Our schools are bursting at the seams, our freeways are nothing but grid lock, the hospital emergency rooms are closing at an alarming rate...so how does making them legal change any of that? Big businesses wants them here because they will have cheap labor, and again...who suffers? They will take $3 away from our economy for every $1 they contribute. They don't earn enough to put back in what they take out. Please don't think I'm a racist...I have Hispanic grandchildren and grandparents who immigrated here from Poland. I don't worry so much for myself...but I do worry about what will happen to my grandkids and their futures if we take everyone who chose to break our laws and make them legal.
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