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Old 01-17-2010, 06:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ShesBlessed View Post
They claim that illegals cost more then they put in THIS IS totally false. Immigrants Pay More in Taxes Than They Use in Services Over Their Lifetimes: Depending on skills and level of education, each immigrant pays, on average, between $20,000 and $80,000 more in taxes than he or she consumes in public benefits.
You are blurring the line between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. By mixing and matching information from both categories, you have made all of your "facts" and "statistics" irrelevant and meaningless.

Last edited by mrbartlebee; 01-17-2010 at 06:16 PM.. Reason: Clarified a sentence

 
Old 01-17-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Facts are irrelevant when you're pushing an agenda it seems.
 
Old 01-17-2010, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by ShesBlessed View Post
They claim that illegals cost more then they put in THIS IS totally false. Immigrants Pay More in Taxes Than They Use in Services Over Their Lifetimes: Depending on skills and level of education, each immigrant pays, on average, between $20,000 and $80,000 more in taxes than he or she consumes in public benefits.
http://www.aollatinoblog.com/2008/04/14/…

Illegal immigrants benefit the economy in many ways, and I've included links so you know I'm not making this up.

1. They pay BILLIONS in taxes, and many don't claim taxes. Those taxes help many things like Social Security, Medicare, local schools and even road maintenance.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articl…
Illegal Immigrants pay BILLIONS in taxes every year

2. Their hard work and determination helps U.S. companies and farms stay competitive in today's fierce market. They work very hard and for low wages, and this help companies make record breaking profits, and that allows them to keep their prices low. U.S. farms will not operate without illegal immigrant workers, and that means more farms will shut down or move to Mexico where the workers are without immigration issues.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/04/a…
U.S. farmers go where workers are: Mexico

3. They also fill the gap in the labor workforce. Even if every American was employed, there would still be a lot of jobs not filled.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/busi…
They may be illegal but we still need them

4. They pump BILLIONS into our economy as consumers. Illegals are just like you and I, they buy houses, cars, cloths, food, electronics, music and the list goes on and on. Hispanic illlegals are part of the Hispanice Purchasing Power in America that's expected to reach $1TRILLION by 2011.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/01/hispani…
Hispanic entrepreneurship, buying power on the rise

5. Illegal Immigrants have been found to be a GOOD mortgage risk. Even with these bad times, they are able to find a way to pay their monthly payment, but at the same time we are adding more of these homes to the foreclosure list by deporting them.

http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/11/i… (http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/11/illegal-immigrants-turn-out-to-be-good-mortgage-risks/ - broken link)
Illegal Immigrants Turn Out To Be Good Mortgage Risks

6. Not only does the economy benefit from illegals, so do the native workers.

http://media.wildcat.arizona.edu/media/s… (http://media.wildcat.arizona.edu/media/storage/paper997/news/2007/04/10/Opinions/Dollars.And.Sense.Economy.Native.Workers.Benefit.F rom.Immigrant.Work-2831841.shtml - broken link)
Dollars and sense: Economy, native workers benefit from immigrant work

THANK AN ILLEGAL!!!
Great post repped. Thank you for speaking the truth many don't want to hear.
 
Old 01-17-2010, 09:52 PM
 
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Great post repped. Thank you for speaking the truth many don't want to hear.
Every illegal alien who is working, or has worked in the Unites States has committed one or more crimes, with some of these crimes being felonies.

Among the crimes that illegal aliens have committed by working here are ID theft, document fraud, Social Security fraud, employment "I-9 Form" perjury/fraud, income tax evasion, and conspiracy to violate immigration laws.
 
Old 01-17-2010, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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ShesBlessed

you can quote all the links you want, that is not the real world. You probably do not even know an illegal. I do, many, they range all the way from middle class paying all their taxes to others making $90,000 a year on contract work, no withholding and have never filed income taxes.

That's the real world and I speak from experience not from what I read.
 
Old 01-17-2010, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Hey I have a question Im kinda stunned here. Im like all anti-government right now cuz I passed pi**ed off 2 years ago. Im curious to others answers tho. Its smacking them in the face. The crime rates sky rocketing, our unemployment rate going high, the cost in welfare extc..., Identity theft, fraud extc.... they know why this is all happening and why its gotten worse which I know isnt 100% illegals and temp- work visas (the ones coming here just to get money to send home and then go back to be rich. NOT the ones here to be a citizen) but Ive seen one of the bigggest increases since they passed that bill. They are more worried about our war in Iraq right now and all which is old news already but why do they sit back and do nothing bout this? I know my answer but whats yours?
 
Old 01-18-2010, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Great post repped. Thank you for speaking the truth many don't want to hear.
You are entitiled to your own opinions - you are NOT entitled to your own "facts".

The OP is about as "factual' as reports that santa claus married the easter bunny

Thank you
 
Old 01-18-2010, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Another attempt to legitimize illegals.
How much is spent on ID theft each year?
Identity Theft
How much do illegals cost hospitals?
ALIPAC - Illegal Aliens cost Florida Hospitals $100 Million This is 1 state.
How much to educate illegals?
California’s Illegal Aliens Cost Taxpayers Nearly $9 Billion A Year « MorganWrites
Once again this is 1 state.
How much do illegals cost motorists?How open borders turn<br> Americans into roadkill
Just an example.
To jail illegals:
Congress Slashes Funds To Jail Illegal Aliens | Judicial Watch
Just another example.
The list is endless. But add to the list how many americans are collecting unemployment. How many americans earn lower wages because illegals lowball the market.
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