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Old 01-18-2010, 04:16 PM
 
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What? Illegal immigrants are US citizens?
Just clarified it for you. And no, they are not citizens.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:18 PM
 
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Did I say that (in bold)? Don't extrapolate things that aren't there. Keep things in context.

Dr. King was concerned with the larger picture of global parity.
Since when does global parity equate no immigration laws? Dr King would have supported these illegals for fighting for their rights in their countries of origin -- NOT for the rights of citizens in a country that they are in illegally. Especially since they are adversely effecting the black community.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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You mean a borderless world? Nations should no longer have sovreignity? Maybe we should have planes on standby in every city in every country in the entire world to bring whomever would like to come? No background checks, no reasonable idea if they can support themselves or not. Is that the US you envision? Or is the immigration free for all only for certain folks?

Also, Dr King really was more concerned about black Americans not being allowed an education, not being allowed to vote then he ever would have been about illegal immigrants working under the table.
Absolutely! He would not condone the rampant lawlessness, the theft of services, or any of the IA criminal behavior.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:23 PM
 
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It really makes NO SENSE when you think about: illegal immigrants from Mexico and places like Guatemala attempting to piggy back on Black American history and struggle. They are the most crafty and sneaky people.
Its hard to live up to what Dr. King wished us to be..."I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.”
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:25 PM
 
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Since when does global parity equate no immigration laws? Dr King would have supported these illegals for fighting for their rights in their countries of origin -- NOT for the rights of citizens in a country that they are in illegally. Especially since they are adversely effecting the black community.
Did I say no immigration laws?
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:25 PM
 
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That’s what boils my blood. The Civil Rights Movement is being hijacked by ethnocentric amnesty advocates. As you stated, there is no comparison; and it is an absolute affront to the memory of all who fought and died for this just cause.

Obviously, Jesse Jackson has no shame. His alignment with the likes of Louis Gutierrez speaks volumes.
Jesse Jackson is nothing but a race hustler trying to remain in the limelight.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:26 PM
 
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It's funny because I stated fair reform, thus immigration laws. Dr. King would want a fair and balanced answer. Not based on extremist ethnocentrist beliefs.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Its hard to live up to what Dr. King wished us to be..."I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.”
Yes, all men ARE created equal. However, that does not entitle one to enter a country illegally, and violate the laws of that land. There is no inherent right to live in any country one wishes.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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Since when does global parity equate no immigration laws? Dr King would have supported these illegals for fighting for their rights in their countries of origin -- NOT for the rights of citizens in a country that they are in illegally. Especially since they are adversely effecting the black community.
If anything, Dr. King would coordinate massive marches protesting our governments’ refusal to enforce our immigration laws. Yes, he would most definitely support the poor blacks nationwide who have been disproportionately displaced by massive illegal immigration. I’m sure the folks in Harlem would seek his help, and they would get it. We all know he lost his life while supporting the striking sanitation workers in Memphis. Why would anyone believe he wouldn’t feel compelled to help the citizens of this country against an insidious foreign presence?

Pro-illegals can twist it anyway they choose, but he would NOT support illegal aliens, particularly to the detriment of his own. And, by “his own” I mean legal citizens of this country. It would be counterproductive, to say the least.
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:09 AM
 
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If anything, Dr. King would coordinate massive marches protesting our governments’ refusal to enforce our immigration laws. Yes, he would most definitely support the poor blacks nationwide who have been disproportionately displaced by massive illegal immigration. I’m sure the folks in Harlem would seek his help, and they would get it. We all know he lost his life while supporting the striking sanitation workers in Memphis. Why would anyone believe he wouldn’t feel compelled to help the citizens of this country against an insidious foreign presence?

Pro-illegals can twist it anyway they choose, but he would NOT support illegal aliens, particularly to the detriment of his own. And, by “his own” I mean legal citizens of this country. It would be counterproductive, to say the least.
I dont think we can say for sure what he would or would not support.

What I can say is that he wanted equality for all irrespective of skin color. I dont think his work was strictly for the US...it transcended to other nations. People really looked up to him all over the world. I agree that this was globally. After apartheid in S.A., I remember hearing Correta King talk about how she wished her husband would have been alive to witness it.

With that, I am not saying that immigration laws are the same as the civil rights movement but we cannot say that his words of wisdom and philosophy were only limited to US citizens.
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