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Old 06-07-2007, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I don't think that by someone just coming here and working for a better life is criminal. Have you ever drove with several beers in your system? How about gone over the speed limit? If yes then you sir are a criminal too! But back to the point, those who come here and join gangs, rape kill and thieve absolutely should be deported, but if they come here for a better life and work hard and observe the laws here they should be given amnesty. Just remember that we have tons of black and white criminals born and living here and I get tired of this rascism and total blame on the aliens for every problem in south califonia. Trust me there will still be mega problems even if you get rid of the aliens!!
Being here illegally makes one a criminal. How many times must a poster post this same statement. Not all come here for better life. Many, many commit crimes, suck off the taxpayers. Open your peepers. If I was caught speeding I will be summons a ticket, whereas, the illegals get slapped on the hand. I've seen it happen before.

Again, I've stated it many times, just because one is against ILLEGAL ALIENS does not make them a racist.

 
Old 06-07-2007, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Actually, I live in Texas where there are a number of illegals and I just don't see them causing problems here. All the people selling drugs here are black and some whites.
I don't think it's fair to judge the whole country by that small area in Texas.
 
Old 06-07-2007, 02:26 PM
 
Location: college station texas
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Being here illegally makes one a criminal. How many times must a poster post this same statement. Not all come here for better life. Many, many commit crimes, suck off the taxpayers. Open your peepers. If I was caught speeding I will be summons a ticket, whereas, the illegals get slapped on the hand. I've seen it happen before.

Again, I've stated it many times, just because one is against ILLEGAL ALIENS does not make them a racist.
As I stated, the ones who break a law and are convicted and are in the USA should be deported. The ones who are here for a better life and willing to do the jobs that americans think they are too good for, like crop picking, lawncare etc. should be allowed to stay, they aren't doing anyone harm if they are law abiding and working are they?
 
Old 06-07-2007, 02:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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As I stated, the ones who break a law and are convicted once here should be deported. The ones who are here for a better life and willing to do the jobs that americans think they are too good for, like crop picking, lawncare etc. should be allowed to stay, they aren't doing anyone harm if they are law abiding and working are they?
Oh geez....not that "they're just doing the jobs Americans think they are too good to do" crap again! What you mean is that they are just doing the jobs for slave wages that Americans expect to be paid a living wage for, don't you? Those of you apologists who spout this same rote rhetoric time and time again are actually telling the rest of us that slavery is alive and well in the United States of America and that you support it.

Americans built this country and we didn't have to import slave labor to do it! And we don't need to import slave labor to keep it going either!

FYI--NO illegal is law-abiding. They broke the law to come here to begin with. Let any American attempt to pick and choose which laws they want to obey and which ones they wish to ignore and see where it gets them.
 
Old 06-07-2007, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I don't know any American that won't do a job if it's there. The problem is -Illegals come in, lower wages and screw up the Country.

You have your opinion and I respect that, but it's been beaten to death by pro illegal lovers.

Oh, My family, well my hubby's family are farmers and they do quit well themselves without hiring ILLEGAL ALIENS. So don't assume Americans won't do jobs. That's the problem with Pro-illegals, they just don't get it.
 
Old 06-07-2007, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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P.P.S. There are people who are neither "anti-American" nor "pro-illegal", in case you aren't aware... some of us love this country & EVERYONE who lives here, including the immigrants. I won't say the illegal immigration isn't a problem, but it doesn't anger or worry me for the same reasons that you might feel. And if you didn't want to live near Mexican immigrants, why live in CALIFORNIA to begin with? In case you haven't noticed, we do share a border with them, so it's only logical that we'd have some spill-over. Do you think Swiss people are surprised to have a lot of Italian and German neighbors?
I strongly disagree.

Here in Danbury CT, we have tens of thousands of illegal immigrants (Mexicans, Ecuadorians, Guatemalans) that have infested our small city that was once about 60,000 people. Now the population is more like 110,000 with all of the illegals. They've strained our schools. They've made it risky to drive, because if they hit you, guess what? No insurance. Crime has risen here.

Just ten years ago, Danbury was rated among the best places to live in the nation. Now it's dirty with litter everywhere, the schools are incredibly overcrowded and what was once a quaint downtown with mom and pop shops now have Spanish names with the feeling of South America rather than Connecticut. If you go to a cafe or restaurant, more than half the time, my order is wrong because they can't understand English. Not to mention they live 10-20 people in a small, 2 bedroom apartment. It's a disaster.

What is going on here today is a slap in the face to the immigrants who came here legally!

To the last American who leaves Danbury, please grab the American flag on your way out.

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Old 06-07-2007, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Jeremey - I have family that lives near or around Danbury, I hear how bad it is and has gotten. I know years ago, it was very nice there.

I have a grandmother who lives in New Fairfield and she won't go to Danbury anymore.

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It's just not California, they are invading other towns - states. Enough is enough.
 
Old 06-07-2007, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Jeremey - I have family that lives near or around Danbury, I hear how bad it is and has gotten. I know years ago, it was very nice there.

I have a grandmother who lives in New Fairfield and she won't go to Danbury anymore.

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It's just not California, they are invading other towns - states. Enough is enough.
It's absolutely horrible and really makes me sad.
 
Old 06-07-2007, 03:32 PM
 
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Gizmo, your post indicates lack of information. The influx of illegals overpowering California only began in the mid 1980's, well after some of us had been residing here for rather a few decades. Heretofore Los Angeles seemed like any other American city with people from many different origins, all pulling together as Los Angeles residents (with some infamous setbacks, a la 1964 racial rioting. At least we strived for better relations afterwards and elected a fantastic, universally well-regarded African-American mayor, Mayor Bradley.) One's first response is to see if what appears to be happening really is happening, then confirming same, meanwhile the overpowering increases. A better analogy than Switzerland for you to have used is what was the response of the Jewish peoples when the National Socialists began eradicating their rights as fellow countrymen. Remember, these new arrivals really, really dislike the people already here, be they naturalized or born citizens of the U.S. Only "La Raza" matters.
 
Old 06-07-2007, 04:44 PM
 
Location: In an illegal immigrant free part of the country.
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I don't think that by someone just coming here and working for a better life is criminal. Have you ever drove with several beers in your system? How about gone over the speed limit? If yes then you sir are a criminal too! But back to the point, those who come here and join gangs, rape kill and thieve absolutely should be deported, but if they come here for a better life and work hard and observe the laws here they should be given amnesty. Just remember that we have tons of black and white criminals born and living here and I get tired of this rascism and total blame on the aliens for every problem in south califonia. Trust me there will still be mega problems even if you get rid of the aliens!!

Do you have children and have you ever lived in or near a neighborhood that has a large population of illegal immigrants? All these illegals (illegal=against the law) take jobs from Americans and drive the wages down. When you lose the middle class you will see an America like we have never seen before. With poverty comes more crime.

These people that have come into our county illegally are criminals. Try crossing their border and make the same kind of demands they do and take their jobs. Fly their flag upside down or burn it. Try protesting in their streets. Do what they do here, in their county and I bet you would be found in the desert. It's not racist. We have a right to a sovereign nation and why should our tax dollars pay for them? In some cities American citizens that have lived someplace all their lives are losing their hospitals because they can no longer afford to stay open anymore. Our children’s education suffers because they have no real interest in learning English because many of them believe this country belongs to them. You get enough of them here and America will be like mexico, the very place they ran from.
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