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Old 01-28-2010, 02:15 AM
 
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<<The majority of illegal immigrants came in by plane with a visa which they let expire.>>

How is it then that the majority of illegal aliens are from SoB? Mexico to be specific. Very few of them come by plane.
Are you saying that few Mexicans travel by plane? Oh boy, first of all just because the majority are from Mexico does not mean they jumped the border. look at the number of visas our country gives to Mexico. Compare that to the number of visa overstays. Look at the number of airports in our country that fly in and out of the country to Mexico. Times that with the number of flights available and look at the number of cities it goes to in Mexico. They aren't all Americans flying to Mexico.

At this time I'm away from home and don't have my research. I don't believe numbersusa is a reliable source but I can agree that both visa overstays and border crossings are about the same.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:25 AM
 
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Gangs and the other examples were mentioned, not to imply that this particular family is involved in those activities. Rather, as one of many examples of the negative aspects of illegal immigration.
As I said in the other post. Gangs have nothing to do with illegal immigration. It is an American thing. Most illegal immigrants come here to work.

Considering there are approximately 12 million illegal immigrants and only 366 were arrested for gang activity, I would say it's almost non existant in illegal immigration.

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Old 01-28-2010, 03:02 AM
 
Location: CA
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Funny how people get so worked up about a group of people wanting to survive and feed their family.

This country belongs to those who settled and worked it. Last time I checked that would include AA's, Native Americans and Mexicans.

There is room for everyone.

As for crime, there is more crime in this country committed by our own citizens that so called aliens.
And let us not forget the home grown terrorist Timothy McVeigh.

The second commandment is Love Thy Neighbor.
It's a very simple and easy thing to do.
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:07 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Funny how people get so worked up about a group of people wanting to survive and feed their family.

This country belongs to those who settled and worked it. Last time I checked that would include AA's, Native Americans and Mexicans.

There is room for everyone.

As for crime, there is more crime in this country committed by our own citizens that so called aliens.
And let us not forget the home grown terrorist Timothy McVeigh.

The second commandment is Love Thy Neighbor.
It's a very simple and easy thing to do.


on that note:
EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.'


TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'


Looks like they have some explaining to do.
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Old 01-28-2010, 07:00 AM
 
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Funny how people get so worked up about a group of people wanting to survive and feed their family.

This country belongs to those who settled and worked it. Last time I checked that would include AA's, Native Americans and Mexicans.

There is room for everyone.

As for crime, there is more crime in this country committed by our own citizens that so called aliens.
And let us not forget the home grown terrorist Timothy McVeigh.

The second commandment is Love Thy Neighbor.
It's a very simple and easy thing to do.
So what you are saying is that no country has a right to immigration laws? If we let in everyone who wanted to work or live here we would have millions more of the world's poor.

I don't know who AA is but it was mostly the white Europeans who built this country not native indians nor Mexicans.

No we don't have room for everyone see my first paragraph.

Perhaps there is more crime committed by our own citizens than illegal aliens but that would only make sense since there are 280 million citizens vs 20 million illegal aliens. The point is that we don't need to add to our crime stats by having people here who don't have a right to be. Another point to make is that those American born criminals have a right to be here and we will deal with our own lawbreakers.

I will love my neighbor when he starts respecting the laws of our country, its citizens and its soveirgn borders.
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Old 01-28-2010, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Funny how people get so worked up about a group of people wanting to survive and feed their family.

This country belongs to those who settled and worked it. Last time I checked that would include AA's, Native Americans and Mexicans.

There is room for everyone.

As for crime, there is more crime in this country committed by our own citizens that so called aliens.
And let us not forget the home grown terrorist Timothy McVeigh.

The second commandment is Love Thy Neighbor.
It's a very simple and easy thing to do.
Excuse me? There was no such thing as a Mexican or Black person here in the New World prior to the arrival of the White (Hispanic) people in 1492.

As for the Indians: again prior to the arrival of the Euros; the Aztecs and Comanches to name but two groups treated weaker tribes/nations with contempt. The Euros were simply a group of 'Indians' with much better weapons and diseases that the indigenous peoples here had no defense against.
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