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Old 01-29-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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The Majority of the state of OKLAHOMA was populated by white illegal
aliens , they sneaked into Indian Territory and staked claims before
the start of legal "homesteading in Oklahoma" thus giving the state
it's nick name "The Soomer State".
There were no immigration laws back then so no, they weren't illegal aliens. Besides what has that to do with today and our right to have immigration laws today?
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Old 01-29-2010, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The Majority of the state of OKLAHOMA was populated by white illegal
aliens , they sneaked into Indian Territory and staked claims before
the start of legal "homesteading in Oklahoma" thus giving the state
it's nick name "The Soomer State".
Which is a moot point, all parties involved are now dead. Besides: prior to the arrival of the White man; stronger groups of Indians beat up weaker ones yet there do not seem to be any hue and cry against them---------the Comanche come to mind.
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Old 01-29-2010, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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The Majority of the state of OKLAHOMA was populated by white illegal
aliens , they sneaked into Indian Territory and staked claims before
the start of legal "homesteading in Oklahoma" thus giving the state
it's nick name "The Soomer State".
Well, you wouldn't expect an illegal alien to get it right now would you? During the Oklahoma Cimarron Strip land run "some" legal American citizens jumped the gun and sneaked in and staked claims. A few or "some sooners" is hardly a majority. Pro illegal alien revisionism?
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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There were no immigration laws back then so no, they weren't illegal aliens. Besides what has that to do with today and our right to have immigration laws today?
I Beg To Differ with you The U.S. Government in Washington D.C. said
that Whites Caucasian could not enter into Indian Territory and take
"LAND" well that sounds like a Immigration Law To "Me" and of course
they "did" and the same thing happened in "TEXAS" and CALIFORNIA
you couldn't keep them out of the STATES.

Our Immigration problem is totally different today , because we have
the will..."WILL" and "TECHNOLOGY" to BETTER Keep Out ILLEGAL ALIENS.
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:50 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Well, you wouldn't expect an illegal alien to get it right now would you? During the Oklahoma Cimarron Strip land run "some" legal American citizens jumped the gun and sneaked in and staked claims. A few or "some sooners" is hardly a majority. Pro illegal alien revisionism?
I'm not PRO ILLEGAL ALIENS....FOMC...Falling Out Of My Chair...LOL
White Illegal Aliens entered Indian Territory Long Before The LAND
RUN....sorry and by THE WAY (OUR ILLEGAL ALIEN ARE CITIZENS) OF
LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES....so what your point LEGAL AMERICAN
CITIZEN "weren't" Legal Indian Nation Citizens.
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:57 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Which is a moot point, all parties involved are now dead. Besides: prior to the arrival of the White man; stronger groups of Indians beat up weaker ones yet there do not seem to be any hue and cry against them---------the Comanche come to mind.
Listen I'm Not Pro Illegal Aliens "Here" I'm just making a point (That's)
the illegal aliens problem is just basic "HUMAN NATURE" and as far as
more WAR LIKE Groups of Indians ABUSING other indian "Look At" what
the "RUSSIAN and GERMANS and ITALIANS" did to the WHITE CAUCASIAN
RACE.
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Listen I'm Not Pro Illegal Aliens "Here" I'm just making a point (That's)
the illegal aliens problem is just basic "HUMAN NATURE" and as far as
more WAR LIKE Groups of Indians ABUSING other indian "Look At" what
the "RUSSIAN and GERMANS and ITALIANS" did to the WHITE CAUCASIAN
RACE.
For the record: most Russians, Germans and Italians are also Caucasians.
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:45 PM
 
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For the record: most Russians, Germans and Italians are also Caucasians.
I think Howest was making the point that your comparison of 'Indians abusing other Indians' was a little like his, of 'Caucasians abusing other caucasians'..

That's my take, at least..I could be mistaken...
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I think Howest was making the point that your comparison of 'Indians abusing other Indians' was a little like his, of 'Caucasians abusing other caucasians'..

That's my take, at least..I could be mistaken...
Well; if such were the case, it was a weak analogy at best.
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:58 PM
 
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I'm not PRO ILLEGAL ALIENS....FOMC...Falling Out Of My Chair...LOL
White Illegal Aliens entered Indian Territory Long Before The LAND
RUN....sorry and by THE WAY (OUR ILLEGAL ALIEN ARE CITIZENS) OF
LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES....so what your point LEGAL AMERICAN
CITIZEN "weren't" Legal Indian Nation Citizens.
We can argue all day long whether or not the immigrants who came from Europe long ago were illegal aliens or not but it doesn't matter because they are all dead now. What matters is what our immigration laws are today. So what if the illegal aliens we have in our country are citizens of the different Latin American countries, they are not U.S. citzens and have no right to be in THIS country. What part of that don't you get?
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