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Old 01-28-2010, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by Rico from East Los View Post
The Nation is divided on the issue.
Yes 74% want the border secured and 26% either don't care or are against it.
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:00 AM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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Getout....

I meant no disrespect to You or anyone here....I just get pretty damned tired of seeing the results of poll,after poll,after poll......that show that the majority of people are against illegal immigration, but continue to remain "silent" when called out to participate....

Oh well, We will win in the long run....but , the damage that has, or will be done to this country is going to be difficult, if not impossible, to repair.


Borderlord
I felt no disrespect BL and have been torn whether an open protest would help or produce mayhem. I doubt our government is unaware of the growing discontent from the American people regarding illegal aliens and the cost to this nation. Publicized polls are an effective way for all to see now or later the flavor of an issue, whereas an open protest could be miscontrued via media, airing only those things they choose to show. I do know I continue to contact our government and express my points.
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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You stopped the last amnesty or there was simply not enough support to pass amnesty.

Is the cup half full or half empty?

In a nut shell you can thank Reagan who set the precedence of forever dangling a carrot in front of Mexico that if you illegally enter the USA you too can get citizenship.
There wasn't enough support for it in congress because of the input of the American people so in essence yes we did stop amnesty from happening.

I agree about Reagan. He made a big mistake granting amnesty in 1986 which only perpetuated more illegal immigration by not securing our borders and enforcing our laws like was promised. If I remember correctly Reagan admitted he was wrong before he died.
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:20 AM
 
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You stopped the last amnesty or there was simply not enough support to pass amnesty.

Is the cup half full or half empty?

In a nut shell you can thank Reagan who set the precedence of forever dangling a carrot in front of Mexico that if you illegally enter the USA you too can get citizenship.
Yes you're right about that. A lot of illegals actually intended to return home, home to their families and friends as soon as they can, many never really wanted to give up their country for good and didn't really want to become "gringos". Many would accept that it's time to go back home except that they're afraid the minute they do, there's going to be some big amnesty and they won't be here to get in on it.

Promises of amnesty really is like holding some carrot, enticing people to stay including those who aren't all that set on staying. They figure they should wait, get that USA citizenship as some insurance policy or free ticket to cross the border as they please and then they can safely go back. For a lot of them, they feel a bond with their own country, the "American dream" isn't really about becoming American but something more to do with money.

If the politicians would come out and flat out tell them, there isn't going to be any amnesty, many would shrug and be fine with it, and many would decide then that it's time to go back home again.
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