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Old 02-01-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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PLEASE show me where I said anything LIKE this? Did I not say that at the least legal immigrants have to have medical checks that ILLEGAL aliens don't.

Reading comprehension 101 seems to be a little lacking here. Either that or you quoted the wrong poster.
This is what you said:

"Most LEGAL immigrants aren't unskilled labour, so I doubt they'll be picking your crops anytime soon. There are STANDARDS for legal immigrants that ILLEGAL aliens don't have to meet (like TB checks for example)"

You claimed that most legal immigrants who come here would not pick crops. In your very next sentence you bring up the lack of healthchecks by illegal aliens as if it were another bonus reason for farmers to hire them ( you know that pesky paperwork stuff again). I took that to mean that you were siding with the farmers who would hire them anyway. If I took it the wrong way, I apologize. But I still don't see why you went from talking about legal immigrants supposed refusal to pick crops to talking about illegal aliens not having to get healthchecks. If you want someone to comprend then please be a little clearer in your thoughts.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:03 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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It creates enforcement by attrition," Jorgenson told the Senate State Affairs Committee. "When people know we have this kind of structure in place, they leave the state or they don't come."
Jorgenson's measure would require employers after Jan. 1, 2011, to confirm a worker's eligibility through the federal "E-Verify" system. Violators would face fines of up to $50 a day per worker, up to $50,000. His bill goes even further: Written driver's license tests would be given in English only -- no interpreters allowed.

rewarding good behavior and punishing bad behavior. what a novel concept in this country! THUMBS WAY UP!
Your right, A BIG THUMBS UP!
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:49 PM
 
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<<Look for the cost of your fries at McDonalds going up.>>

Before the big influx of illegal aliens in the last 20-30 years, most farm work was done by citizens, and some legal immigrant workers. This country had a large middle class. People bought homes, cars, and major appliances. In most households it didn't take both parents working to support a family. Things were pretty good for most people. Adjusting for inflation, the cost of living was much lower compared to earnings, than it is now. The only thing I've seen with millions of illegal aliens pouring into this country is higher prices, and lower wages.

A good portion of our produce comes from SOB anyway, so how do illegal aliens working in this country help keep those prices down?

Even in this country, considering the jobs that illegal aliens frequently do, have you noticed the price of construction going down? How about a hotel room or a meal in a restaurant?
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:05 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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<<Look for the cost of your fries at McDonalds going up.>>

Before the big influx of illegal aliens in the last 20-30 years, most farm work was done by citizens, and some legal immigrant workers. This country had a large middle class. People bought homes, cars, and major appliances. In most households it didn't take both parents working to support a family. Things were pretty good for most people. Adjusting for inflation, the cost of living was much lower compared to earnings, than it is now. The only thing I've seen with millions of illegal aliens pouring into this country is higher prices, and lower wages.

A good portion of our produce comes from SOB anyway, so how do illegal aliens working in this country help keep those prices down?

Even in this country, considering the jobs that illegal aliens frequently do, have you noticed the price of construction going down? How about a hotel room or a meal in a restaurant?
I can guarantee that any "savings" goes into the pocket of the employer. The market sets the price for goods not a bunch of Illegal Aliens.
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:32 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Even legal immigration lowers wages. Just look at my industry, I.T., where wage increases have been flat or have, at best, not kept up with inflation. Why? We are importing about 100,000 immigrants every year to do jobs that Americans are fully capable of doing ourselves. Every year thousands of newly-minted computer science degree-holders are forced into other industries because companies would rather hire foreigners. It's disgusting.
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