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They're not coming just for a Christmas visit or town celebration, but with every intention of staying permanently. And that has the town in a bind.
Perhaps now they understand some of our problems. These are THEIR citizens. It’s alright for them to visit, but eventually they want them to leave. Yet, we are racists and xenophobes because we also want them to leave.
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Originally Posted by Benicar
Perhaps now they understand some of our problems. These are THEIR citizens. It’s alright for them to visit, but eventually they want them to leave. Yet, we are racists and xenophobes because we also want them to leave.
But what is the difference if they have turned Miami into a Spanish speaking city so that an English speaker can't even get a job in that city? If they are so fluent in English or not refusing to speak it, then how did that come about?
It depends on the job. Customer service and sales jobs sometimes do prefer being bilingual due to our high foreign born population in some locations. Many jobs do not require to be bilingual. We are still 20% African American and 10% white nonhispanic and many of them work even in customer service or sales jobs. It is an advantage but they still get jobs, when they don't understand their customers they call someone who is bilingual. What is true though is that is is extremely difficult to get a job if you don't speak English, especially a good one.
About the second part of your question, most of the time people prefer to speak their mother tongue, even if they are fluent in English. For me it doesn't make a difference during a customer service transaction, but if I'm talking to friends who also speak English as a second language, it is easier for me to have that conversation in Spanish. Everybody has a different comfort level when they speak English as a second language.
Perhaps now they understand some of our problems. These are THEIR citizens. It’s alright for them to visit, but eventually they want them to leave. Yet, we are racists and xenophobes because we also want them to leave.
Their understanding will only increase, very painfully, as the decrease in the money sent home from the U.S. continues to decline, even as the demands on the town increase.
I suppose the pressure from Calderon to Obama, concerning Amnesty or most certainly some form of aid to Mexico will increase....
Sorry I can't call them "white" as many hispanics are classified as such. White nonhispanics it's too long and confusing, and I'm sure 100% of the people here know what I mean when I say "anglo". If you don't like the word choice, then don't read my posts, put me in your ignore list, but this is the time I'm addressing this.
These nonsense arguments about what word to use or not to use are not my cup of tea, so find another poster to argue about this.
Well whatever, like I said put me in your ignore list.
Struck a nerve there, Princess?
I can read what I please - you really should think about why this has you so up in arms, darling. Methinks thou doth protest too much.
Making excuses for use of ignorant terminology isn't a "well whatever" issue. This is no different than when someone refers to all hispanics as "those Messicans".
It depends on the job. Customer service and sales jobs sometimes do prefer being bilingual due to our high foreign born population in some locations. Many jobs do not require to be bilingual. We are still 20% African American and 10% white nonhispanic and many of them work even in customer service or sales jobs. It is an advantage but they still get jobs, when they don't understand their customers they call someone who is bilingual. What is true though is that is is extremely difficult to get a job if you don't speak English, especially a good one.
About the second part of your question, most of the time people prefer to speak their mother tongue, even if they are fluent in English. For me it doesn't make a difference during a customer service transaction, but if I'm talking to friends who also speak English as a second language, it is easier for me to have that conversation in Spanish. Everybody has a different comfort level when they speak English as a second language.
When it creates job discrimination just because they want to feel all warm and fuzzy speaking their native tongue, then I have a problem with that. Job discrimination against mono-lingual English speakers is rampant in Miami.
I can read what I please - you really should think about why this has you so up in arms, darling. Methinks thou doth protest too much.
Making excuses for use of ignorant terminology isn't a "well whatever" issue. This is no different than when someone refers to all hispanics as "those Messicans".
You can call me Mexican, Cuban, Nicaraguan, Your choice, if you want to add a litol ispanic asent, fine too, but I don't think the mods will be too happy with that.
You can call me Mexican, Cuban, Nicaraguan, Your choice, if you want to add a litol ispanic asent, fine too, but I don't think the mods will be too happy with that.
Well in that case, I'm glad you agree.
Here is some helpful reading so you can further yourself in cultural sensitivity should you so choose:
"Many people are upset by this terminology and find it offensive, while others find it just plain incorrect. Here's a look at what the word "Anglo" really means and why some people dislike its common use."
I'm glad CD is bringing people together and ironing out the rough spots.
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Methinks thou doth protest too much.
