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Old 02-07-2010, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The ONLY question on the census form that should be answered is - how many people in your household.

No other questions need to be answered - nor will be in my household
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:35 AM
 
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The ONLY question on the census form that should be answered is - how many people in your household.

No other questions need to be answered - nor will be in my household
Why? This doesn't make sense at all...
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:42 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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They need to stop these raids until the census data is collected otherwise we will never know how many undocumented workers live in this country
That would be a good idea, except the dont distinguish citizen from non-citizen.
Their numbers just get mixed into the total.
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:44 AM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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That would be a good idea, except the dont distinguish citizen from non-citizen.
Their numbers just get mixed into the total.
Which is why they are not to be included. Why give false amounts to any community? If they are "included" in a census, illegal aliens get MORE illgotten funds, just what the tax payer needs, more freeloaders. If they are NOT included, communities get what they are normally supposed to receive.

I hope they run for the hills, hills of of their own country.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:02 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Once again, you are not taking all things into consideration. There are cities, districts, towns, that have a large tax base of illegal immigrants. Loss of that tax base, or not being counted in the census, means the poor lose out.
They won't lose out if services are rendered to citizens only.

All should be checked for legal status before being given any tax-financed handouts. Even a poor person most likely is in possession of a birth certificate; most probably have a DL also.

I doubt a 'large tax base' of illegals exists anywhere in this country.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:12 PM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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I feel for the communities needing funds. Legal citizens should be outraged by this intrusion of having to count illegal aliens and all of the distraction this causes. Hopefully they will also contact their congressman. No money should go to any who is not an American citizen. Yet on the other hand, if said communities do count illegal aliens, get higher funding, when amnesty is not granted and jobs for illegals fade, those communities will be better off once self-deportation has begun or they are arrested. Hmmm...
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:08 AM
 
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They won't lose out if services are rendered to citizens only.

That's a horrible idea. So we should deny education? Right...

All should be checked for legal status before being given any tax-financed handouts. Even a poor person most likely is in possession of a birth certificate; most probably have a DL also.

What about schooling? Or policing? It's not just "tax financed handouts".

I doubt a 'large tax base' of illegals exists anywhere in this country.

In many rural areas, illegal immigration consists of the fastest growing segment. Postville is a great example. Not to mention in inner city regions, illegal immigrants and Hispanics in general have provided a larger tax base (E. Los Angeles and SC Los Angeles are typically cited for this in most sociological studies).
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I doubt a 'large tax base' of illegals exists anywhere in this country.
In the State of Arizona, and predominantly in the Phoenix and Tucson metro areas, there have / had been a LARGE population of illegal immigrants. And these illegals were overwhelming the school districts, the health care facilities, the welfare offices etc.

Local law enforcement took aim at the illegal immigrant issue and worked out a partnership with ICE so that if local law enforcement identified and took into custody a person in the US illegally, they would be immediately turned over to ICE - who would immediately process that illegal immigrant for deportation. If they had a child who was a US citizen (by birth), the parent was given two options; either take the child with them or, arrange for someone to care for their child until that child's 18th birthday.

A lot of factors, including the declining economy have caused the illegal population to drop dramatically but, the battle continues..
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Old 03-26-2010, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Not counting undocumented immigrants costs big. The City of Houston lost $234.4 million in federal funds for people not counted in the 2000 census.

"It's going to affect our schools, public roads, safety, how everything impacts us directly, especially our children," cautioned Ortega.
How can this be determined when they don't know how many wasn't counted?


I hope it scares the living sh** out of them!
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Old 03-26-2010, 11:37 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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How can this be determined when they don't know how many wasn't counted?


I hope it scares the living sh** out of them!

To the point they self-deport.
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