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Old 02-05-2010, 01:05 PM
 
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Not just "welfare", but any sort of welfare assistance.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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The majority of illegal immigrants aren't on welfare.
Obama's Aunt is. And what about this quote from the article:
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the Heritage Foundation study that our 12 million illegal immigrants are a $2.2 trillion net drain on the taxpayers over the course of their lifetimes.
Sorry, but I don't feel like footing the bill for anyone here illegally. GTFO
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:06 PM
 
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Last dated November 2002? 8 years ago? Sorry, not enough to convince me.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:11 PM
 
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Last dated November 2002? 8 years ago? Sorry, not enough to convince me.
Fine, here's is 2005

The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 29 percent, compared to 18 percent for native households.

(CIS)

Notice that it's really not that much of a difference. The total will not shoot up to over 51% in 5 years.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:18 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 24.5 percent compared to 16.3 percent for native households.

(Center for Immigration Studies)
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Fine, here's is 2005

The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 29 percent, compared to 18 percent for native households.

(CIS)

Notice that it's really not that much of a difference. The total will not shoot up to over 51% in 5 years.
The posted figure only indicates 'immigrant-headed'. This is not proof that a majority of illegal alien households don't receive government aid. If you have info on illegals in this capacity, please share.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:18 PM
 
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Fine, here's is 2005

The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 29 percent, compared to 18 percent for native households.

(CIS)

Notice that it's really not that much of a difference. The total will not shoot up to over 51% in 5 years.
Well you don't know that but the link did take me to this article:

Center for Immigration Studies
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:30 PM
 
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The posted figure only indicates 'immigrant-headed'. This is not proof that a majority of illegal alien households don't receive government aid. If you have info on illegals in this capacity, please share.
Dually noted.

On the same study it states the national average for illegal immigrants using any type of welfare is 35% (food, cash assistance, medicaid).

Table 22 on Center for Immigration Studies
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:34 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Sorry - I am not able to draw a connection - how does your comment have anything to do with my post?
Upon rereading your post, I was unable to make a connection either, which lends me to believe that I was commenting on the post above yours but erroneously picked yours.

Your post was way over my head so i will not attempt to comment on it at this time but reserve the right to do so.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:38 PM
 
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Well you don't know that but the link did take me to this article:

Center for Immigration Studies
Thanks for posting this excellent link. I found the folowing paragraph exceptionally informative:

Policing the border, enforcing the ban on hiring illegal aliens, denying temporary visas to those likely to remain permanently, and all the other things necessary to reduce illegal immigration will take time and cost money. However, since the cost of illegal immigration to the federal government alone is estimated at over $10 billion a year, significant resources could be devoted to enforcement efforts and still leave taxpayers with significant net savings. Enforcement not only has the advantage of reducing the costs of illegal immigration, it also is very popular with the general public. Nonetheless, policymakers can expect strong opposition from special interest groups, especially ethnic advocacy groups and those elements of the business community that do not want to invest in labor-saving devices and techniques or pay better salaries, but instead want access to large numbers of cheap, unskilled workers. If we choose to continue to not enforce the law or to grant illegals amnesty, both the public and policymakers have to understand that there will be significant long-term costs for taxpayers.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:41 PM
 
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Thanks for posting this excellent link. I found the folowing paragraph exceptionally informative:

Policing the border, enforcing the ban on hiring illegal aliens, denying temporary visas to those likely to remain permanently, and all the other things necessary to reduce illegal immigration will take time and cost money. However, since the cost of illegal immigration to the federal government alone is estimated at over $10 billion a year, significant resources could be devoted to enforcement efforts and still leave taxpayers with significant net savings. Enforcement not only has the advantage of reducing the costs of illegal immigration, it also is very popular with the general public. Nonetheless, policymakers can expect strong opposition from special interest groups, especially ethnic advocacy groups and those elements of the business community that do not want to invest in labor-saving devices and techniques or pay better salaries, but instead want access to large numbers of cheap, unskilled workers. If we choose to continue to not enforce the law or to grant illegals amnesty, both the public and policymakers have to understand that there will be significant long-term costs for taxpayers.
You're quite welcome, but the real thanks should go to that1guy since he steered me there in the first place..
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