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Old 05-28-2007, 09:43 PM
 
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I was just reviewing some of the recent events regarding the demonstrations, and rallies. Does the law provide people in this country illegaly with the right to demonstrate?

If not, should they not be arrested for gathering without the right?
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:44 PM
 
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No, I dont believe they do. I could be wrong though - it has been known to happen on rare occasions
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:52 PM
 
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I was just reviewing some of the recent events regarding the demonstrations, and rallies. Does the law provide people in this country illegaly with the right to demonstrate?

If not, should they not be arrested for gathering without the right?
I don't think there is any case law, YET, on this topic...

It is very unusual for a Group of Criminals, Here Illegally, to;

"Gather together LAWFULLY"...

I'm lol so hard I'm falling off my chair...
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:23 PM
 
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Unfortunately they do have rights according to SCOTUS. I was watching a cable news show the other day and out of 90 some federal welfare type programs they qualify for 10. They also have the right to due process under the law as criminal defendants, and can file lawsuits in civil courts. Plus illegal alien children have almost all the rights legal citizen children have, including the right to health care, free education, and protection from discrimination as well as civil rights protections. And that is just from the feds. Individual states also grant protections and rights that vary from state to state.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:26 PM
 
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I don't think they have a legal right, but it comes down to practical application so they usually get away with it.

Since "looking Mexican" doesn't always equal "illegal immigrant", the local police don't really know (although they may suspect) who is an illegal at a rally (and there really isn't much legal weight to "participating in a protest chant"). The extra time needed to detain people, check documents, etc isn't feasible on such a large scale.

We are all used to protesters getting arrested en mass, but that is usually because the police say "disperse" and they don't (PS they also drop the charges the next day in virtually every case). "Ordered to disperse and didn't" is far easier to prove than immigration status.

I think the "throwing it in your face" aspect of rallies is what gets people the most upset, and undermines whatever sympathy had previously been built up.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:29 PM
 
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Unfortunately they do have rights according to SCOTUS. I was watching a cable news show the other day and out of 90 some federal welfare type programs they qualify for 10. They also have the right to due process under the law as criminal defendants, and can file lawsuits in civil courts. Plus illegal alien children have almost all the rights legal citizen children have, including the right to health care, free education, and protection from discrimination as well as civil rights protections. And that is just from the feds. Individual states also grant protections and rights that vary from state to state.
Well, That is complete BS...
So SCOTUS said that "Illegal Criminal Aliens Have Rights";
The only "Right" they should have is to be "Dispensed" on the way in...
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Old 05-29-2007, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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I was just reviewing some of the recent events regarding the demonstrations, and rallies. Does the law provide people in this country illegaly with the right to demonstrate?

If not, should they not be arrested for gathering without the right?
They certainly have the right to return to their country of origin , unfortunately that will rarely happen . If one is here illegally, I fail to see how they can do anything legally while their mere presence is an illegal act. Sadly, an illegal is still protected by the Constitution even though their physical presence in the USA is an illegal act itself. Rather depressing, isn't it?
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:13 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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I was just reviewing some of the recent events regarding the demonstrations, and rallies. Does the law provide people in this country illegaly with the right to demonstrate?

If not, should they not be arrested for gathering without the right?
They have human rights. They have civil rights...in their country of origin, not here.

They should go home and take advantage of their civil rights.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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It seems like they have more rights then the Citizens of this country.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:04 AM
 
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I was just reviewing some of the recent events regarding the demonstrations, and rallies. Does the law provide people in this country illegaly with the right to demonstrate?

If not, should they not be arrested for gathering without the right?
Yes....they seem to have more rights than U.S. citizens. If they would have been U.S. citizens having the mass protests, the men in the black uniforms and shiny shields would have been down on them in a nano-second. The rubber bullets and tear gas would fly.
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