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Old 05-29-2007, 12:54 AM
 
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Illegal Immigrants get counted when they divvy up the country into the 435 Congressional districts... That means that a huge Metropolis like L.A. with a large Illegal population gets the equivalent of about 1 "extra" district... The reason is that the Constitution says districts are based upon "residents" not "citizens".

That basically means that [scattered across the country] the 10 million "illegals" get the equivalent of about 10 representatives. They don't get a vote, but the people in their area get a 'stronger' vote.

Does that bother you that L.A. residents effectively get 40% "more vote"?

Also, contrast that with a Congressional District in California getting 3.8% of a Senator vs the 6 smallest states which get 2 Senators (5,200% more "Senator" than California). Also consider that about 12% of the US population is subjected to this "inequity".

***Note for the moderator*** This wasn't in the "Immigration" Thread because it is a question about representation.

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Old 05-29-2007, 02:39 AM
 
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Illegal Immigrants get counted when they divvy up the country into the 435 Congressional districts... That means that a huge Metropolis like L.A. with a large Illegal population gets the equivalent of about 1 "extra" district... The reason is that the Constitution says districts are based upon "residents" not "citizens".

That basically means that [scattered across the country] the 10 million "illegals" get the equivalent of about 10 representatives. They don't get a vote, but the people in their area get a 'stronger' vote.

Does that bother you that L.A. residents effectively get 40% "more vote"?

Also, contrast that with a Congressional District in California getting 3.8% of a Senator vs the 6 smallest states which get 2 Senators (5,200% more "Senator" than California). Also consider that about 12% of the US population is subjected to this "inequity".

***Note for the moderator*** This wasn't in the "Immigration" Thread because it is a question about representation.

Good point Evlevo, also remember those extra congressional seats translates to electoral votes in our presidential elections. Of course Californias 54 votes are winner take all. So states with large numbers of illegal aliens have a greater influence on our presidential elections than they should. Which can effectively skew the results, especially in close elections.
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Old 05-29-2007, 03:07 AM
 
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Good point Evlevo, also remember those extra congressional seats translates to electoral votes in our presidential elections. Of course Californias 54 votes are winner take all. So states with large numbers of illegal aliens have a greater influence on our presidential elections than they should. Which can effectively skew the results, especially in close elections.
It might skew California slightly, but I doubt it would swing the election. Remember, NM, AZ, and TX also have lots of illegal immigrants, and they voted for Bush.

Also, the electoral college shift of "over-representation" made by WY, MT, ND, SD, and AK who also vote heavily Republican is huge (VT is another small state, but they vote Dem or independant).

Maybe we could have a constitutional amendment to end the electoral college, and tie in a "districts based on citizens" clause to help win support. Probably all the little states'd veto it cuz they'd lose there "more equal" status though.
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