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Old 02-10-2010, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I guess my point in all of this is if somebody doesn't have a social security number in the US but for whatever reason they really want to own property here I don't see a problem with that. I guess I just don't see the relation between immigrant status and property ownership...they seem like two unrelated functions to me.

Take this example - a wealthy Mexican citizen (who has a US visitor's visa but has no social security number) wants to help his brother (permanent US resident) out so he buys a house there which he intends to rent out to his brother and his brother's family. Just because he doesn't have a social security number doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to make this transaction, should it?
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Old 02-10-2010, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Also, what about rich foreigners who have US visitor visas and want to purchase vacation homes here where they plan on spending a few months out of the year. Foreigners with visitor visas do not have social security numbers and would not be able to pass E-verify, mind you.
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Old 02-10-2010, 03:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Also, what about rich foreigners who have US visitor visas and want to purchase vacation homes here where they plan on spending a few months out of the year. Foreigners with visitor visas do not have social security numbers and would not be able to pass E-verify, mind you.
They would have a passport though.
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Old 02-10-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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They would have a passport though.
Most illegal immigrants I know have passports from their country of origin...so what? A passport doesn't allow someone to pass e-verify. You'd need to accompany it with a valid social security card/number.

The more I think about this proposal, the more I think Rep. Marchant didn't think this through very well. E-Verify for mortgages is a TERRIBLE idea.
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:17 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Most illegal immigrants I know have passports from their country of origin...so what? A passport doesn't allow someone to pass e-verify. You'd need to accompany it with a valid social security card/number.

The more I think about this proposal, the more I think Rep. Marchant didn't think this through very well. E-Verify for mortgages is a TERRIBLE idea.

Oher Countries don't offer loans?
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:24 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Oher Countries don't offer loans?
Other countries offer loans to the USA...were not Chinese.
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:31 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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This should already be a requirement. Illegals have received fraudulent mortgage loans, and have no problem abandoning homes. They have no fear of having their credit ruined, because itís not THEIR credit being ruined.

Your so right. I have a feeling, that those illegals who are living here illegally, have absoutely no fear of anything.
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:33 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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It is without a doubt a step in the right direction. Closing yet another avenue of abuse is the thing to do.
Imagine you are shopping for your dream home or just your first home. You place a fair bid only to lose out to someone else. Thats life and it happens. What should never happen is for a legal citizen or resident to lose to an illegal. An individual who has no right to be here let alone to own property.


Man you could not of said it any better believe me. I think it is an outrage, when a legal citizen loses a home new or used, to an illegal. Should be criminianl, should it not!
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:19 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Man you could not of said it any better believe me. I think it is an outrage, when a legal citizen loses a home new or used, to an illegal. Should be criminianl, should it not!

how does a citizen lose their home to an Illegal...?
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Pa
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They don't have all the same rights but I'm almost positive they have the right to land/property/business ownership. They definitely have the right to work in the US and pay taxes and receive tax paid benefits just like a citizen would. Permanent residents have social security cards and would pass E-verify anyways, my question was if their status had expired or was in process for renewal.
I tend to agree with you. No actually i agree with you 100%...
I also agree with A. Bear/ The green card holder owns the R on maintaining their status. If they should let it slide or do something to cause themselves to be deported, then they own this.
E verify should be used for all applicants. If here illegally they should not be rewarded by receiving a mortgage to buy a home.
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