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Old 02-12-2010, 05:27 PM
 
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Bottom line is that they know the value of a dollar , where your average person will punch out a 5pm they'll punch out a 9pm . Being that i work in the construction field and the only thing i had a problem with was understanding them , they take pride in their work and work hard day in and day out . I would worry more about the python invasion than the immigrants
It doesn't matter how hard they "supposedly" work they are here in violation of our immigration laws. They are taking these jobs from American workers. Python's don't do that and we don't have to pay for their anchors either.

 
Old 02-12-2010, 05:27 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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We have so many illegal Mexicans working in the state of florida and its keeping Floridians from finding work! I have seen illegal immigrants working in all kinds of different industries. People think Mexicans are only stealing farming jobs, but thats just ignorant to think.

Illegal Mexicans are now working in restaurants, hotels, bars, new home construction, hanging drywall, landscaping, as well as the farming jobs. We could fix the economy in the state of Florida by simply removing all of the illegal immigrants and replacing them with workers from Florida!

Why is it so bad to demand anyone that comes to this nation do it the right way? My brother-in-law is from Germany and is trying to become a citizen. He has been going through the process for about 4 years and yes its cumbersome but at least he is doing it the right way! I have no sympathy for people who cross the southern boarder illegally.

Former Mexican President Fox told the Mexican media in 2002 that America stole Texas, Arizona, California, Utah, Nevada, New Mexico and they want it back! He went on to state that Mexico could never defeat the United States in a military fight but they could defeat the USA in a silent invasion. He supported illegal Mexicans sneaking into the USA and having children(which makes the new children AMerican citizens) and in about 20 years they could take back the land that America stole. Guess what? He was right. Their are towns in south Texas, south Arizona, and south New Mexico that fly the Mexican flag at the city office buildings and the towns speak 100% spanish. America is slowly being taken away and yet the liberal Americans don't see a problem with it!
Can you explain to me how all these mexicans got a job? are there mexicans already here hiring them? how did those mexicans get to be company owners? all these mexicans, where do they live? do they live in the homes of the mexican company owners? where do they buy their food? buy their clothes? do they use buses owned by other mexicans to get to work? do they buy their electricity from the mexican electric company?

Why would you bring up Vicente Fox, He was Mexico's president 8 years ago? Why didnt you say anything about all those greedy Floridians that have their hands out taking the illegals money. Because the truth is, No Mexican hires Himself...Its Floridians doing the Hiring, selling, renting to all thoses Mexicans.
 
Old 02-12-2010, 05:31 PM
 
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Serious 1751texasn, here in Washington there's a huge thing about illegal immigration because we have a large apple industry and whose out there pickin' our apples? Most of the population is hispanic (both illegal and legal), although I know a few of my euro-descended friends that have busted their butts right along with them.
So OP how do you tell an illegal from a legal? A person can apply for citizen ship and come over here not knowing how to speak English.
 
Old 02-12-2010, 05:32 PM
 
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I can't begrudge Illegal immigrants for coming here and working. Why not if they can so easily get away with it. There is the problem, go after the employer, they are the only ones we actually have some recourse against. Remember when a parking ticket was $2.00? No one cared they just got them and paid, it was worth it to have a place to park. They stopped when then went to like $25.00 and $35.00 a ticket. I don't know anyone who just parks all day now without adding money.

Same with this thing. Start fining employers $10,000 per illegal employ they catch and see how fast it stops. You can get them on tax laws, not paying benefits, taxes, unemployment, SS. They would be risking losing their business just for some cheap labor. It would stop over night. It is a self correcting problem if you go after the right people.
Correct me if I am wrong but are you advocating breaking laws just as long as someone can get away with it? I sure hope not. The employers and the illegals are both guilty here. E-verify will take care of both guilty parties but the panderers in congress and the apologists for illegal aliens fight e-verify tooth and nail.
 
Old 02-12-2010, 05:33 PM
 
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And i have no problem with you stating nothing but true facts, some don't like it oh well. I also have no probelm with those that one a better life, to do it the right way, become a U.S. CITIZEN, since you wanted so badly that new life, WELL LEARN ENGLISH, which is still our language. We should not have to learn another language, to accomodate those that come into this Country illegally, and those that are here legal, you should still learn English. Some do, and i know so many that do not, and don't intend on learning English, they actually look at you, like your crazy, if you don't speak Spanish. I have no problem with them speaking Spanish, but hey, you live here in the U.S. think you could learn some English. The public schools, should be saying, you don't learn the English language, then find another School.
You are spot on! The problem with most people is they would rather be politically correct then be truthful! My brother-in-law is from Germany and he just shakes his head at all of the illegal Mexicans in this nation. He is married to an American and yet the process is still very cumbersome, but he is doing it the right way! People who defend illegals immigrants are slapping my brother-in-law in the face because he is doing it the right way. Its been about 4 years but he said he will continue to go through all of the bearuocratic mess.
 
Old 02-12-2010, 05:36 PM
 
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Can you explain to me how all these mexicans got a job? are there mexicans already here hiring them? how did those mexicans get to be company owners? all these mexicans, where do they live? do they live in the homes of the mexican company owners? where do they buy their food? buy their clothes? do they use buses owned by other mexicans to get to work? do they buy their electricity from the mexican electric company?

Why would you bring up Vicente Fox, He was Mexico's president 8 years ago? Why didnt you say anything about all those greedy Floridians that have their hands out taking the illegals money. Because the truth is, No Mexican hires Himself...Its Floridians doing the Hiring, selling, renting to all thoses Mexicans.
I agree! I can't argue with that! I think we should fine every single individual or organization at least $100,000 for every illegal immigrant they hire. That would stop real quick and then the illegals would go back on their own.

However, you know that their would be some bleeding heart liberal group that says by forcing them to leave we are treating them cruel. Well so what!
 
Old 02-12-2010, 05:40 PM
 
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If your brother-in-law wasn't marrying a US citizen but simply intended intended immigrate and do any of the jobs you listed, he wouldn't have gotten an interview. Practically speaking, there's no legal way for a Mexican farmhand, or an Australian bartender, or a German landscaper to get a US work permit without marrying a resident or winning the Green Card lottery - the latter not being an option id you're from Mexico.

I'm not trying to defend illegal immigration, but the entire "why don't they just do it the right way?" line of questioning is moot. There is no legal way.
You are incorrect about there not being visas available for some of the above. At any rate if there is no legal way to come here then you don't come the illegal way either!
 
Old 02-12-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Correct me if I am wrong but are you advocating breaking laws just as long as someone can get away with it? I sure hope not. The employers and the illegals are both guilty here. E-verify will take care of both guilty parties but the panderers in congress and the apologists for illegal aliens fight e-verify tooth and nail.

You must be specifically talking about the 6 RINO republicans and those astonishing 202 left wing amnesty progressive democrats in Congress who are fighting all attempts to stop illegal immigration.
 
Old 02-12-2010, 06:52 PM
 
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You must be specifically talking about the 6 RINO republicans and those astonishing 202 left wing amnesty progressive democrats in Congress who are fighting all attempts to stop illegal immigration.
Yup! Those would be the ones.
 
Old 02-12-2010, 10:40 PM
 
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I believe you and i'm familiar with the immigrants all too well on your average job site of 100 workers 75 of those are immigrants , it's something i take with a grain of salt . As a foreman there aren't many immigrants that can do my job (most don't speak english , have a SS card , have a drivers license
Not yet,but thats not the case in Southern California where you might have 1 legal with an entire illegal crew that he sub contracts out to an all illegal sub contractor.Just give it time if this continues and word gets out they will be theree sooner than you think.No one has a beef with LEGAL immigrants as they have a right to be here and work.ILLEGALS are another story alltogether.
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