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Old 02-12-2010, 11:44 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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No misinformation; only lack of comprehension for some. Illegal aliens aren’t simply interested in attending our universities. They also want to be treated as U.S. citizens by receiving in-state tuition. Thus, the bill, and the topic of this thread, is in-state tuition for illegal aliens. What is so difficult to comprehend?
post the proposed law...prove me wrong
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:45 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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No misinformation; only lack of comprehension for some. Illegal aliens aren’t simply interested in attending our universities. They also want to be treated as U.S. citizens by receiving in-state tuition. Thus, the bill, and the topic of this thread, is in-state tuition for illegal aliens. What is so difficult to comprehend?


Believe me Benicar, this is not at all hard to understand. Oh we understand it boy! do we. They are not our Citizens, we should be providing not a thing for them. Unless they become U.S. Citizens.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:57 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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current utah law



H.B. 144


1 EXEMPTION FROM NONRESIDENT TUITION
2
2002 GENERAL SESSION
3
STATE OF UTAH
4
Sponsor: David Ure
5 This act modifies the State System of Higher Education code to allow a student who meets
6 certain requirements to be exempt from paying nonresident tuition at institutions of higher
7 education. This act requires the State Board of Regents to make rules. This act takes effect
8 on July 1, 2002.
9 This act affects sections of Utah Code Annotated 1953 as follows:
10 ENACTS:
11 53B-8-106, Utah Code Annotated 1953
12 Be it enacted by the Legislature of the state of Utah:
13 Section 1. Section 53B-8-106 is enacted to read:
14 53B-8-106. Resident tuition -- Requirements -- Rules.
15 (1) If allowed under federal law, a student, other than a nonimmigrant alien within the
16 meaning of paragraph (15) of subsection (a) of Section 1101 of Title 8 of the United States Code,
17 shall be exempt from paying the nonresident portion of total tuition if the student:
18 (a) attended high school in this state for three or more years;
19 (b) graduated from a high school in this state or received the equivalent of a high school
20 diploma in this state; and
21 (c) registers as an entering student at an institution of higher education not earlier than the
22 fall of the 2002-03 academic year.
23 (2) In addition to the requirements under Subsection (1), a student without lawful
24immigration status shall file an affidavit with the institution of higher education stating that the
25 student has filed an application to legalize his immigration status, or will file an application as
26 soon as he is eligible to do so.
27 (3) The State Board of Regents shall make rules for the implementation of this section.



The law allows Immigrant students to pay the cheaper In-State tuition.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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post the proposed law...prove me wrong
You asked for it, you got it.

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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Illegal immigrants who graduate from a Utah high school would be forced to pay out-of-state tuition at the state's public colleges under a bill approved by the House.

There is a difference of thousands of dollars between in-state and nonresident rates. Illegal immigrants would still be able to attend a public university, but House Bill 241 is intended to make it so that they can't afford to.

The bill's sponsor says it's unethical to encourage illegal immigrants to go to college if they can't legally get a job here after graduating.

HB 241 passed in the House 40-35 Tuesday and will now be heard in the Senate. Another close vote is expected there.
ksl.com - House votes to repeal in-state tuition for illegal immigrants

Utah Legislature HB0144

H.B. 144 Bill Documents - 2002 General Session
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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current utah law



H.B. 144


1 EXEMPTION FROM NONRESIDENT TUITION
2
2002 GENERAL SESSION
3
STATE OF UTAH
4
Sponsor: David Ure
5 This act modifies the State System of Higher Education code to allow a student who meets
6 certain requirements to be exempt from paying nonresident tuition at institutions of higher
7 education. This act requires the State Board of Regents to make rules. This act takes effect
8 on July 1, 2002.
9 This act affects sections of Utah Code Annotated 1953 as follows:
10 ENACTS:
11 53B-8-106, Utah Code Annotated 1953
12 Be it enacted by the Legislature of the state of Utah:
13 Section 1. Section 53B-8-106 is enacted to read:
14 53B-8-106. Resident tuition -- Requirements -- Rules.
15 (1) If allowed under federal law, a student, other than a nonimmigrant alien within the
16 meaning of paragraph (15) of subsection (a) of Section 1101 of Title 8 of the United States Code,
17 shall be exempt from paying the nonresident portion of total tuition if the student:
18 (a) attended high school in this state for three or more years;
19 (b) graduated from a high school in this state or received the equivalent of a high school
20 diploma in this state; and
21 (c) registers as an entering student at an institution of higher education not earlier than the
22 fall of the 2002-03 academic year.
23 (2) In addition to the requirements under Subsection (1), a student without lawful
24immigration status shall file an affidavit with the institution of higher education stating that the
25 student has filed an application to legalize his immigration status, or will file an application as
26 soon as he is eligible to do so.
27 (3) The State Board of Regents shall make rules for the implementation of this section.

And your point? Why do you consistently hijack threads? Again, THIS THREAD is discussing repealing in-state tuition for illegal aliens in Utah.
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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And your point? Why do you consistently hijack threads? Again, THIS THREAD is discussing repealing in-state tuition for illegal aliens in Utah.
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Illegal immigrants who graduate from a Utah high school would be forced to pay out-of-state tuition at the state's public colleges under a bill approved by the House.

Pay out of state tuition rates, instead of in-state tuition rates...Thats all I have stated, that the rate changes, they still be able to attend college.

You can claim hijacked thread all you like, But im discussing the issues of the Thread...Matter of fact you proved my point.
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Illegal immigrants who graduate from a Utah high school would be forced to pay out-of-state tuition at the state's public colleges under a bill approved by the House.
Yes. That IS the topic of this discussion.
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Illegal immigrants who graduate from a Utah high school would be forced to pay out-of-state tuition at the state's public colleges under a bill approved by the House.

Pay out of state tuition rates, instead of in-state tuition rates...Thats all I have stated, that the rate changes, they still be able to attend college.

You can claim hijacked thread all you like, But im discussing the issues of the Thread...Matter of fact you proved my point.
Have you forgotten your “banning foreigners” comment? Again, no one mentioned banning foreigners, or banning illegals from our colleges. The issue is in-state tuition, period.

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Once again some of you FAIL to understand that this is not a ban on foriengers from attending college, it is not even to ban State fincial aid to undocumented students...
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Have you forgotten your “banning foreigners” comment? Again, no one mentioned banning foreigners, or banning illegals from our colleges. The issue is in-state tuition, period.
Im just happy now that you uderstand that the proposed law is for changing the tuition rates aliens PAY.

How you got there is ok by me
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Im just happy now that you uderstand that the proposed law is for changing the tuition rates aliens PAY.

How you got there is ok by me
Yes, “tuition” is generally what college students PAY. Can I assume you endorse in-state tuition for illegal aliens?
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