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Old 05-30-2007, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles Area
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I forgot to mention....to commit crimes too.
Oh geez. Yes they are over in Mexico saying "Hey Jose, lets go to American and commit some crimes!!".
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They come here for free health care, welfare, SSI, food stamps and every social program the U.S. offers.
No they come here for work and to improve their lifes. Also, the only thing that an illegal can easily get for free is health care. That is because hospitals can't let folks die because they don't have insurance etc.

All the other things you mentioned you have to have paper work to get. Now of course some of them have fake documents, but if they have these documents that means they are most likely paying taxes too. The "illegals" actually put a lot into the social security and medicare systems.

 
Old 05-30-2007, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why the hate speech? Because I hate people that steal from me and my family on a daily basis. Simple as that.

If I break into Donald Trump's house, steal anything of value I can find, because he is better off financially than I am and I want to "create a better life for my family," do I deserve his sympathy or forebearance? Of course not. He would have every reason and right to hate my guts and voice it to the world.

By working here illegally, not paying taxes, and utilizing our free health care, education, and social services that are funded by MY tax dollars, these jackasses are effectively doing the same thing.

And I hate them for it.
 
Old 05-30-2007, 09:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Oh geez. Yes they are over in Mexico saying "Hey Jose, lets go to American and commit some crimes!!".

No they come here for work and to improve their lifes. Also, the only thing that an illegal can easily get for free is health care. That is because hospitals can't let folks die because they don't have insurance etc.

All the other things you mentioned you have to have paper work to get. Now of course some of them have fake documents, but if they have these documents that means they are most likely paying taxes too. The "illegals" actually put a lot into the social security and medicare systems.
Untrue. All it takes to get on the system is one anchor baby and they're in like Flynn. If I weren't late for finals already, I have a lovely study done by a non-partisan financial group which shows the extreme strain that illegal aliens put upon the system and the American taxpayer. Check back later and I'll post it for you. They take more than they give. That's why people are upset. You like supporting illegals? I'd be happy for you to support my share. Personally, I don't care if they are Mexican, Ethiopian, Swedish, or Martian. If they are here illegally, they've gotta go.
 
Old 05-30-2007, 09:54 AM
 
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Humanoid
The hate speech is disturbing that is all I'm pointing out.
Everybody!!! Humanoid is disturbed by the "hate speech"...I promise to you Humanoid that I will never be hateful and I will sprinkle magic anti-hate speech fairy dust upon all the hate speech. I will place myself high on that podium with you and condemn everyone else for their hateful speech. I gotta tell ya!! Its pretty lame being up on this podium with you preaching to everyone else about their thoughts and feelings on a subject that will affect the rest of their lives, their children’s lives, and their grandchildren’s lives. I think I will take my leave from this podium and join the rest of these patriots who are willing to stand up for America and American sovereignty. Now that I'm down here, I have an uncontrollable urge to write something....


An Army of peasants’ devouring America like a pride of lions feasting upon a gazelle. Cities and towns across these United States are crumbling at the feet of simple peasant hordes. Americans giving up these places that they claim as their home, Americans built these cities and towns for Americans. It is the peasant hordes who will die of old age in these places, all the while feasting upon the great bastion of government programs that treasonous politicians have provided to them. The treasonous politicians claim that we need this filth to do jobs Americans are not willing to do. The traitors do not care if we die; it is them who have allowed this to take place. We the American citizen are expendable in the eyes of these traitors. The murders, rapes, and all out brutality that these peasants inflict upon "We the People" is worth it in the eyes of these wanna be tyrants. Absolute power is what the so called political elite are after and these uneducated peasant hordes will be more than willing to provide it to them for mere table scraps.
 
Old 05-30-2007, 10:13 AM
 
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Oh geez. Yes they are over in Mexico saying "Hey Jose, lets go to American and commit some crimes!!".

No they come here for work and to improve their lifes.
If they 'come here for work', how do you explain the anchor babies? What job is a woman who crosses the border in violation of US immigration law while 9 months pregnant looking for? Please tell me what job she is hoping to find.
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Also, the only thing that an illegal can easily get for free is health care. That is because hospitals can't let folks die because they don't have insurance etc.
They are entitiled to receive WIC funds irrespective of immigration status and if there is an anchor baby in the family, the full buffet of benefits is available. There is also free education, free school breakfasts and lunches and I am sure many other freebies.
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All the other things you mentioned you have to have paper work to get. Now of course some of them have fake documents, but if they have these documents that means they are most likely paying taxes too. The "illegals" actually put a lot into the social security and medicare systems.
Most probably don't earn enough to pay federal income tax. Perhaps you can specify which other taxes they are paying. An individual who lacks a HS education, works at a minimum or below minimum wage job and has a family is always going to receive more in gov. assistance and benefits then they pay into the system. This is common sense.
I am furious at what is happening to our country, if you want to interpret that as 'hate', go ahead. It may be helpful for you to familiarize yourself with the hatred expressed by the illegal aliens towards America and her citizens. It far surpasses any of the 'hatred' you claim to find on this thread.
 
Old 05-30-2007, 10:22 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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All the other things you mentioned you have to have paper work to get. Now of course some of them have fake documents, but if they have these documents that means they are most likely paying taxes too. The "illegals" actually put a lot into the social security and medicare systems.[/quote]

Yeah. Make them all legal and they'll claim ALL of that too!. If they become legal and the social security and medicare systems continue like they are (though unlikely), the illegals will add unprecedented strain due to their likelihood of drawing supplemental security income, free medicare(paying no Part B premium) due to their poverty. At teh same time, the boomers will be drawing soc sec & medicare. This sounds like a formula for disaster.
 
Old 05-30-2007, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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ive also noticed alot of blatant racism here.

i think they go out of their way to try and justify it though.

just good ol christian values...
 
Old 05-30-2007, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Debary, Florida
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I did answer your question...just THE way you wanted it answered...

I would not break the law, I would not enter a country illegally, I would not take advantage...

I would not do what they do.

Any illegals...not just a certain race of them are a blight on American society, thats not racism...thats not wanting lawbreakers to be able to take over our country, steal our resources.

When they are allowed to stay here only ONE of the results is that if they run into legal trouble, they run home to hide because we have no real idea who they are and can't trace them...

Pack them up and send them home...

America also needs to stop allowing people to come here to have a baby and use that baby as an excuse to be able to stay...

If your from another country and you give birth here, that child should be a citizen of your country of origin.

Racism is hating a person because of their race, I don't base my likes of people on their race and have friends of many different races...I dislike, mistrust AND will not tolerate people who break the law, not just illegal immigrants...

People who call this Racism are doing a bait and switch with the topic in order to undermine the true message...sounds alot like the current president.
 
Old 05-30-2007, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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hmmm, so, everyone that argues they dislike them cause they break the law, it would be safe to assume then that you NEVER break the law?

no speeding tickets, red lights, dui's, nothing?
 
Old 05-30-2007, 11:27 AM
 
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ive also noticed alot of blatant racism here.

i think they go out of their way to try and justify it though.

just good ol christian values...
What solutions to the problems discussed here do you propose?
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