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Old 02-16-2010, 02:24 PM
 
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You forgot to mention all this:

According to the Los Angeles Times, Baca, chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, directed Caucus funds from its PAC[3] BOLDPAC (Building Our Leadership Diversity)[4] to the unsuccessful California campaigns of his sons, Joe Baca, Jr. and Jeremy Baca.[5] At the time, Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) and five other members dropped out of the PAC in protest of these actions.[3] They alleged that the funds, meant to elect Hispanic candidates, should not have been used to help Baca's sons run against Hispanic candidates and that in a previous race funded by the PAC, Joe Jr. had run against Hispanic candidates.[4]

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) released a report stating that Rep. Baca had paid his daughter $27,000 from campaign funds and donated more than $20,000 to his sons' political campaigns from his own campaign funds.[6] They also report accusations that were made in 2006 by former members of Baca's Washington staff that they were sent to California in 2004 for a staff retreat and pressured to work on Joe Baca, Jr.'s campaign for the state Assembly on their paid time for the senior Baca.[1]

In January 2007, fellow Hispanic Caucus members including Loretta Sanchez, Nydia Velázquez (D-NY), Hilda Solis (D-CA) and Sanchez's sister Linda Sánchez (D-CA) wrote a letter to Baca asking for a new election with a secret ballot. They claimed that Baca was elected chair of the Caucus in a public ballot, despite Caucus rules for electing a chair that require a secret ballot election.[5]

On January 31, 2007, The Politico reported that Rep. Baca had called Loretta Sanchez a "*****." Citing Baca's alleged insult and the perceived impropriety in Baca's election to chairman of the CHC, as well as Baca's treatment of Latina members in the CHC, Loretta Sanchez resigned from the Caucus along with her sister, three other female California members and one female member from Arizona.[5] Rep. Baca has denied making the insult.[7]

Rep. Loretta Sanchez and Rep. Solis alleged that Rep. Baca made the remark in the summer of 2006. The two congresswomen state that they heard the remark from unnamed sources, although The Politico identified California State Assemblyman Fabian Núñez as one of those who heard the insult firsthand and told Loretta Sanchez.[8] She said that Baca confirmed the comments to her sister Linda Sánchez the day before Loretta Sanchez confronted him over the accusation.[3]

Joe Baca - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He sounds like a really upstanding guy. .
VERY interesting indeed! Criminal is as criminal does! Wow. I really wouldn't want his name anywhere near what I represent.
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:31 PM
 
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You forgot to mention all this:

According to the Los Angeles Times, Baca, chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, directed Caucus funds from its PAC[3] BOLDPAC (Building Our Leadership Diversity)[4] to the unsuccessful California campaigns of his sons, Joe Baca, Jr. and Jeremy Baca.[5] At the time, Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) and five other members dropped out of the PAC in protest of these actions.[3] They alleged that the funds, meant to elect Hispanic candidates, should not have been used to help Baca's sons run against Hispanic candidates and that in a previous race funded by the PAC, Joe Jr. had run against Hispanic candidates.[4]

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) released a report stating that Rep. Baca had paid his daughter $27,000 from campaign funds and donated more than $20,000 to his sons' political campaigns from his own campaign funds.[6] They also report accusations that were made in 2006 by former members of Baca's Washington staff that they were sent to California in 2004 for a staff retreat and pressured to work on Joe Baca, Jr.'s campaign for the state Assembly on their paid time for the senior Baca.[1]

In January 2007, fellow Hispanic Caucus members including Loretta Sanchez, Nydia Velázquez (D-NY), Hilda Solis (D-CA) and Sanchez's sister Linda Sánchez (D-CA) wrote a letter to Baca asking for a new election with a secret ballot. They claimed that Baca was elected chair of the Caucus in a public ballot, despite Caucus rules for electing a chair that require a secret ballot election.[5]

On January 31, 2007, The Politico reported that Rep. Baca had called Loretta Sanchez a "*****." Citing Baca's alleged insult and the perceived impropriety in Baca's election to chairman of the CHC, as well as Baca's treatment of Latina members in the CHC, Loretta Sanchez resigned from the Caucus along with her sister, three other female California members and one female member from Arizona.[5] Rep. Baca has denied making the insult.[7]

Rep. Loretta Sanchez and Rep. Solis alleged that Rep. Baca made the remark in the summer of 2006. The two congresswomen state that they heard the remark from unnamed sources, although The Politico identified California State Assemblyman Fabian Núñez as one of those who heard the insult firsthand and told Loretta Sanchez.[8] She said that Baca confirmed the comments to her sister Linda Sánchez the day before Loretta Sanchez confronted him over the accusation.[3]
Joe Baca - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He sounds like a really upstanding guy. .
Indeed he does. Thanks for the info.
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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you posters seriously fail with this hispanic tribalism silliness.



what is baca anyways? what kind of name is that? Vaca is cow. whats baca?

i love how everyone is making assumptions based on a persons last name. it always makes me think of that ginger Jeff Garcia. or the lopez twins of NBA fame. basing your ASSUmptions on a persons last name is silly.

if you have a problem with his policies (which many people have) attack those. not his last name or whatever groups ideologies you ASSume he subscribes too.
Seek out the truth for yourself then. I stand by what I said because it is the truth and not an assumption.
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:52 PM
 
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you posters seriously fail with this hispanic tribalism silliness.

what is baca anyways? what kind of name is that? Vaca is cow. whats baca?
i love how everyone is making assumptions based on a persons last name. it always makes me think of that ginger Jeff Garcia. or the lopez twins of NBA fame. basing your ASSUmptions on a persons last name is silly.
if you have a problem with his policies (which many people have) attack those. not his last name or whatever groups ideologies you ASSume he subscribes too.
Kind of like how you seriously fail at making ASSumptions about people who base their assumptions on people's surnames or whatever else?

Gotcha.

Feel free to brush up on Mr. Baca's bio (http://www.house.gov/baca/meetjoe/bio.htm - broken link) who grew up in a household "where little English was spoken" (and I can practically guarantee you that the Bacas weren't speaking Swahili or Tagalog in the American southwest), and where he is listed as "one of the top 100 most influential Hispanic leaders in America".

What other ASSumptions would you like to make?
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:30 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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the point is that you go after someone for their views. not their last name or assumed racial/ethnic identification.

guess you missed that point...

catch up deary.

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Kind of like how you seriously fail at making ASSumptions about people who base their assumptions on people's surnames or whatever else?
Gotcha.
Feel free to brush up on Mr. Baca's bio (http://www.house.gov/baca/meetjoe/bio.htm - broken link) who grew up in a household "where little English was spoken" (and I can practically guarantee you that the Bacas weren't speaking Swahili or Tagalog in the American southwest), and where he is listed as "one of the top 100 most influential Hispanic leaders in America".
What other ASSumptions would you like to make?
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:24 PM
 
Location: central Oregon
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You forgot to mention all this:

According to the Los Angeles Times, Baca, chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, directed Caucus funds from its PAC[3] BOLDPAC (Building Our Leadership Diversity)[4] to the unsuccessful California campaigns of his sons, Joe Baca, Jr. and Jeremy Baca.[5] At the time, Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) and five other members dropped out of the PAC in protest of these actions.[3] They alleged that the funds, meant to elect Hispanic candidates, should not have been used to help Baca's sons run against Hispanic candidates and that in a previous race funded by the PAC, Joe Jr. had run against Hispanic candidates.[4]

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) released a report stating that Rep. Baca had paid his daughter $27,000 from campaign funds and donated more than $20,000 to his sons' political campaigns from his own campaign funds.[6] They also report accusations that were made in 2006 by former members of Baca's Washington staff that they were sent to California in 2004 for a staff retreat and pressured to work on Joe Baca, Jr.'s campaign for the state Assembly on their paid time for the senior Baca.[1]

In January 2007, fellow Hispanic Caucus members including Loretta Sanchez, Nydia Velázquez (D-NY), Hilda Solis (D-CA) and Sanchez's sister Linda Sánchez (D-CA) wrote a letter to Baca asking for a new election with a secret ballot. They claimed that Baca was elected chair of the Caucus in a public ballot, despite Caucus rules for electing a chair that require a secret ballot election.[5]

On January 31, 2007, The Politico reported that Rep. Baca had called Loretta Sanchez a "*****." Citing Baca's alleged insult and the perceived impropriety in Baca's election to chairman of the CHC, as well as Baca's treatment of Latina members in the CHC, Loretta Sanchez resigned from the Caucus along with her sister, three other female California members and one female member from Arizona.[5] Rep. Baca has denied making the insult.[7]

Rep. Loretta Sanchez and Rep. Solis alleged that Rep. Baca made the remark in the summer of 2006. The two congresswomen state that they heard the remark from unnamed sources, although The Politico identified California State Assemblyman Fabian Núñez as one of those who heard the insult firsthand and told Loretta Sanchez.[8] She said that Baca confirmed the comments to her sister Linda Sánchez the day before Loretta Sanchez confronted him over the accusation.[3]

Joe Baca - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He sounds like a really upstanding guy. .
Thanks.
I am amending my opinion of him:
He is a slimy, stupid, sleaze ball!
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:26 PM
 
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Baca will win, as will the illegal immigrants. Only because of the high unemployment is it still unpopular to pass an amnesty bill. But when unemployment comes down, and it will, you will see that there is bilateral support in Congress, among business people, and with the educated oligarchy to legalize them. The demographics now demand it. Amending the Constitution to deny citizenship is a reich-wing pipe dream.
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:35 PM
 
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Baca will win, as will the illegal immigrants. Only because of the high unemployment is it still unpopular to pass an amnesty bill. But when unemployment comes down, and it will, you will see that there is bilateral support in Congress, among business people, and with the educated oligarchy to legalize them. The demographics now demand it. Amending the Constitution to deny citizenship is a reich-wing pipe dream.
Wow, our constitution demands that we make citizens out of illegal aliens? Guess I had better go back and read it again.
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:40 PM
 
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You are conflating. Keep believing that you can amend the constitution to deny citizenship to US born citizens based on race or legal status of parents. You are seriously deluded if you believe this.
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:46 PM
 
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You are conflating. Keep believing that you can amend the constitution to deny citizenship to US born citizens based on race or legal status of parents. You are seriously deluded if you believe this.
Being that the US born children of foreign diplomats are specifically excluded from US citizenship; what makes to think that birthright citizenship for Anchor Babies will remain? Besides; outside of Canada, no First World nation offers birthright anymore----------Ireland did away with theirs about 10 years ago.
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