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Old 02-16-2010, 11:46 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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A recent poll of Texas Voters shows some interesting trends.

A majority of Texas voters support a unauthorized Aliens pathway to Amnsty.

Only 38 percent of all Texas voters and only 45% of Texas Republican voters believe in Deportation as a immigration solution.

Twenty-nine percent favored a way for unauthorized immigrants to attain citizenship, and 23 percent supported work visas.
Pollster Mickey Blum attributed some of the responses to the structure of the question: “Two of them involved staying; one seemed a little bit like a middle road. ... Some people could have grabbed that so they didn't have to say either deport them or give them a path to citizenship.”

There was a partisan split on the answers, with 45 percent of Republicans supporting deportation, compared with 28.4 percent of Democrats.

“The young seem to see this as kind of, ‘Yes, just let them have the path to citizenship,'” Blum said. A total of 42.3 percent of those under 30 supported that option, compared to 27 percent of those over 30.

She also noted that African Americans gave the most support to a pathway to citizenship: 39.6 percent, compared with 26.7 percent of Anglos and 32.1 percent of Hispanics.

Poll: Texas voters back letting illegal immigrants stay in U.S. | Immigration Chronicles | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Poll: Majority doesn't favor deportation (http://www.sacultura.com/Poll_Majority_doesnt_favor_deportation.html - broken link)
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Old 02-16-2010, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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A recent poll of Texas Voters shows some interesting trends.

A majority of Texas voters support a unauthorized Aliens pathway to Amnsty.

Only 38 percent of all Texas voters and only 45% of Texas Republican voters believe in Deportation as a immigration solution.

Twenty-nine percent favored a way for unauthorized immigrants to attain citizenship, and 23 percent supported work visas.
Pollster Mickey Blum attributed some of the responses to the structure of the question: “Two of them involved staying; one seemed a little bit like a middle road. ... Some people could have grabbed that so they didn't have to say either deport them or give them a path to citizenship.”

There was a partisan split on the answers, with 45 percent of Republicans supporting deportation, compared with 28.4 percent of Democrats.

“The young seem to see this as kind of, ‘Yes, just let them have the path to citizenship,'” Blum said. A total of 42.3 percent of those under 30 supported that option, compared to 27 percent of those over 30.

She also noted that African Americans gave the most support to a pathway to citizenship: 39.6 percent, compared with 26.7 percent of Anglos and 32.1 percent of Hispanics.

Poll: Texas voters back letting illegal immigrants stay in U.S. | Immigration Chronicles | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Poll: Majority doesn't favor deportation (http://www.sacultura.com/Poll_Majority_doesnt_favor_deportation.html - broken link)
Do you have any idea how many illegals, or their citizen relatives or friends, responded to this poll? Or, employers of illegals?
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Old 02-16-2010, 12:13 PM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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Do you have any idea how many illegals, or their citizen relatives or friends, responded to this poll? Or, employers of illegals?
Being that Texas is the second largest state containing illegal aliens, I'm sure those numbers are from true legal Americans

I give no relevence to this sort or source of this poll. Give me a poll asking Americans from across the country and I'd bet those numbers would be WAY different. Keep reaching for those straws state of Texas! You're getting way too easy to disprove.
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Old 02-16-2010, 12:34 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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interesting. the N is aprox. 2k, of which 75 percent are registered voters. of those registered voters 1/3 are republicans. i figured there would be more republicans, it being texas and all, but this was done in houston/san antonio. those cities are more liberal that the rest of texas from what i understand.

i think this information is pretty valid. its agood sample size.

its interesting that that Rice professor says the deportation numbers are gigher than other polls. interesting.

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Originally Posted by 1751texan View Post
A recent poll of Texas Voters shows some interesting trends.

A majority of Texas voters support a unauthorized Aliens pathway to Amnsty.

Only 38 percent of all Texas voters and only 45% of Texas Republican voters believe in Deportation as a immigration solution.

Twenty-nine percent favored a way for unauthorized immigrants to attain citizenship, and 23 percent supported work visas.
Pollster Mickey Blum attributed some of the responses to the structure of the question: “Two of them involved staying; one seemed a little bit like a middle road. ... Some people could have grabbed that so they didn't have to say either deport them or give them a path to citizenship.”

There was a partisan split on the answers, with 45 percent of Republicans supporting deportation, compared with 28.4 percent of Democrats.

“The young seem to see this as kind of, ‘Yes, just let them have the path to citizenship,'” Blum said. A total of 42.3 percent of those under 30 supported that option, compared to 27 percent of those over 30.

She also noted that African Americans gave the most support to a pathway to citizenship: 39.6 percent, compared with 26.7 percent of Anglos and 32.1 percent of Hispanics.

Poll: Texas voters back letting illegal immigrants stay in U.S. | Immigration Chronicles | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Poll: Majority doesn't favor deportation (http://www.sacultura.com/Poll_Majority_doesnt_favor_deportation.html - broken link)
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What am I missing here, the link in that article says:

Given work visas to stay in the U.S. 23%
Allowed to get on a path of citizenship 29%
Deported to their country of origin 38%
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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What am I missing here, the link in that article says:

Given work visas to stay in the U.S. 23%
Allowed to get on a path of citizenship 29%
Deported to their country of origin 38%
Thanks. I didn't even look at the data. Mind-boggling.
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:55 PM
 
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Do you have any idea how many illegals, or their citizen relatives or friends, responded to this poll? Or, employers of illegals?
You do know how polling works, right? Usually, they try to get an accurate sample of the population. This achieved by gaining either demographic information or having a large sample size. The idea is to get an accurate representation of the population being pollled.
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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You do know how polling works, right? Usually, they try to get an accurate sample of the population. This achieved by gaining either demographic information or having a large sample size. The idea is to get an accurate representation of the population being pollled.
One problem though, If I took a poll in Ramona and one in Escondido what would the result set be?



As far as the OPs post, just because they aren't all added into the deporation column doesn't mean you count it as a number against deportation. That would be skewing data.
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:03 PM
 
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One problem though, If I took a poll in Ramona and one in Escondido what would the result set be?
Depends on what poll, what are the parameters, what are you testing for...

Again this is where sample size comes into play. If you took polls of ALL of Escondido and Ramona...(which is actually pretty representative of the state of California, both racially, economically, and in terms of political distribution) you'd get results fairly indicative of the state of CA.
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Pa
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You do know how polling works, right? Usually, they try to get an accurate sample of the population. This achieved by gaining either demographic information or having a large sample size. The idea is to get an accurate representation of the population being pollled.
Orrrr They ask questions and then provide answers that are designed to generate a specific result, or make it next to impossible to anwser the way that you would like.
For example.
You believe that we should deport all illegals even if doing so would result in them suffering persecution and finacial ruin when they return to nation of origin.
a. strongly agree
b. somewhat agree
c. Neither agree or disagree
d. somewhat disagree
e. Strongly disagree
Obviously they seek to guilt a person into an anwser.
Another factor is the kind of person who will actually waste 15 minutes of their time to do the poll.
Alpha personalities can't be bothered, people who are over achievers etc.
Then there are the folks bound to be PC no matter what.
Then you have the bored person who is also watching TV at the time they do the poll and are just going through the motions.
I took the time a few times just to see what big deal was. The example question I provided was actually 1 of the questions on the poll I did.
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