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Old 02-23-2010, 04:01 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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why dont they? it would be a waste of money. at least around here it would be. besides they have smarter, better ways of dealing with illegals.

in LA i would rather LE go after the bad guys(violent criminals and thugs). if they happen to be illegal, then that will be found out at processing time. but for local resources to be used specifically on illegals, thus taking resources from capturing murderers, rapists, thieves, etc. will not do my community well.

we need cops to do what cops do. they catch the bad guys. they send them to county jail and there they have a specialist that will determine who is here legally and who isnt.

easy as that. lots of counties in CA are doing that.

it makes sense.
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Old 02-24-2010, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Acworth
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hi i am tim buttons with the wakaleieaaaa sheriffs office. i stopped you today because you look like you are an illegal alien.

NOW, play this in your head. If you do not have imagination, ask somebody to help you. What you are suggesting is some sort of jew hunt reminiscent of germany couple decades ago.

Verification of legal status of arrestees is a whole other matter and several counties here have been part of this (arguably successful) program for years.
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Old 02-24-2010, 05:37 AM
 
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hi i am tim buttons with the wakaleieaaaa sheriffs office. i stopped you today because you look like you are an illegal alien.

NOW, play this in your head. If you do not have imagination, ask somebody to help you. What you are suggesting is some sort of jew hunt reminiscent of germany couple decades ago.

Verification of legal status of arrestees is a whole other matter and several counties here have been part of this (arguably successful) program for years.
there is quite a difference between rounding up people to send them back to their own country because they have engaged in a criminal act against our country versus rounding people (citizens)up to take them somewhere to gas them.

i can't stretch my imagination enough to see the similarity.
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Old 02-24-2010, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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hi i am tim buttons with the wakaleieaaaa sheriffs office. i stopped you today because you look like you are an illegal alien.

NOW, play this in your head. If you do not have imagination, ask somebody to help you. What you are suggesting is some sort of jew hunt reminiscent of germany couple decades ago.

Verification of legal status of arrestees is a whole other matter and several counties here have been part of this (arguably successful) program for years.
Very bad and insulting analogy.

If discussing the Nazi's of 70 years ago: they wanted to murder quite a few of the people they profiled (Germans included) whereas the USA, we simply want the illegal aliens out, preferably uninjured if they do not resist
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Old 02-24-2010, 02:28 PM
 
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Just how do you propose your average run-of-the-mill law enforcement officer is supposed to enforce immigration laws? I'm blue-eyed and lily white as they come, and I don't carry around proof of my right to be in this country on a daily basis. Should I be thrown in jail if I'm ticketed for jaywalking and I can't document my citizenship or immigration status at that moment? It's just not very realistic to expect a cop on the beat to enforce these laws.
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Just how do you propose your average run-of-the-mill law enforcement officer is supposed to enforce immigration laws? I'm blue-eyed and lily white as they come, and I don't carry around proof of my right to be in this country on a daily basis. Should I be thrown in jail if I'm ticketed for jaywalking and I can't document my citizenship or immigration status at that moment? It's just not very realistic to expect a cop on the beat to enforce these laws.
If they're laws, they're to be enforced.
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Old 02-24-2010, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Just how do you propose your average run-of-the-mill law enforcement officer is supposed to enforce immigration laws? I'm blue-eyed and lily white as they come, and I don't carry around proof of my right to be in this country on a daily basis. Should I be thrown in jail if I'm ticketed for jaywalking and I can't document my citizenship or immigration status at that moment? It's just not very realistic to expect a cop on the beat to enforce these laws.
It was reported on the local news today that an 11 y/o girl was raped by two men. Apparently, they were unable to provide evidence of their legal status. Thus, they are “suspected” illegal aliens, and the police have contacted ICE. It’s just that simple.
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:30 PM
 
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In many places, local law enforcement are not properly trained to prevent discrimination cases from happening, therefore, those cities or towns won't address the issue because it basically could get ugly if people begin to complain that they are arrested because they look a certain way. The federal government provides local law enforcement agencies with a chance to become more educated on immigration law enforcement. Writing this makes me realize how this is such a tough issue because people are always screaming racism and trying to connect race to illegal immigration. In many places, that should just be thrown out because the whole vibe and overall knowledge of many places is that those within a certain area are more than likely undocumented and illegally here. Is it really that hard to investigate someone based on that knowledge? Did my black brothers get out of being pulled over by police officers for no reason other than being black? No, they didn't. So, it is funny that illegal immigrants are in some ways protected by this cloud of so-called racism, but a black man in a white neighborhood was and in some places is easily stopped on the basis of probable cause or just looking suspicious.

I don't want any of that happening to anyone, but it is funny that the issue of discrimination stops cities from stopping those who "look" like they could be illegal, but nothing keeps a young black man from being stopped because he doesn't look like he belongs in a neighborhood or a certain car. Just another example of how we protect illegal immigrants with these notions.

Really? i don't know what world you guys are living in, but as a Latino i don't think political correctness has protected me or any of my family. a call was made to the police of suspected "criminal behavior" when my sister and my cousins fell asleep in their car last week waiting in the walmart parking lot. political correctness is not protecting latinos we are subjected to the same discrimination as any other minority.
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Really? i don't know what world you guys are living in, but as a Latino i don't think political correctness has protected me or any of my family. a call was made to the police of suspected "criminal behavior" when my sister and my cousins fell asleep in their car last week waiting in the walmart parking lot. political correctness is not protecting latinos we are subjected to the same discrimination as any other minority.
What's your Legal status?

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Old 02-27-2010, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Really? i don't know what world you guys are living in, but as a Latino i don't think political correctness has protected me or any of my family. a call was made to the police of suspected "criminal behavior" when my sister and my cousins fell asleep in their car last week waiting in the walmart parking lot. political correctness is not protecting latinos we are subjected to the same discrimination as any other minority.
C’mon, think. How can you possibly fault passersby for calling the police? And, why are you assuming it was motivated by their ethnicity? It is not the norm to see two people asleep in a store parking lot. I’m sure the person who called the police was concerned, rather than prejudiced. They probably received multiple calls. Perhaps they thought they had overdosed from drugs, or were dead. Perhaps the person suspected a “crime” had been perpetrated against them, thus the “criminal” component.

When I noticed two small children had been left unattended in a grocery store parking lot, I called the police, and I notified the store manager. They happened to be Hispanic. I assure you, I didn’t care about their ethnicity; I was concerned for their welfare. It’s sad that some believe EVERYTHING is racially or ethnically motivated.
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