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Old 02-20-2010, 06:32 AM
 
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I'm posting this comment from another as I think this speaker says what I hold true. E-Verify is a passive yet reliable program to help end illegal aliens from taking any more of our American jobs. When businesses refuse to acclimate E-Verify one needs to ask, why? We all know the answer as well as why it continues to be rejected by our lawmakers. Things are changing with the growing sentiment of this country. Knowledge is power.

Brittanicus
2/18/10 at 9:41 PM
[SIZE=-2]Report Abuse[/SIZE]Every patriotic American and legal resident can accomplish something to halt or recede the illegal immigration occupiers of our nation, which includes contacting ICE. We all know the astronomical costs in hospital treatment, education, prison and unrevealed government entitlement. Americans must stand together and demand all immigration laws be rigidly enforced. Our own impoverished, hopeless people remain in terrible poverty, while our politicians have been heavily influenced by open border lobbyists. We need an in-perpetuity E-Verify verification program to differentiate from illegal and illegal workers for each state internal use. Every worker who has been employed for 30 years or just hired--MUST--be identified in every company. In addition the 287 (g) federal program that has not been established by every state, county or city police department.

This program also-MUST--be established and paid for by the government to train local police to apprehend illegal foreign nationals. The rescinded NO-MATCH-LETTER, that identifies discrepancies in cross-references a possible bogus name that doesn't correspond with a Social Security number. The No Match letter must be resurrected, including Homeland Security Secretary Napolitiano who compromised, under handily slowed ICE audits and raids on businesses using illegal aliens. Our government has even been reckless in underfunding the Southern border fence, that as stated in The Secure Fence Act (Pub.L. 109-367) was enacted October 26, 2006 was meant to be constructed in as a two tier fence. Each one of these laws have been silently either underfunded or secretly smothered, so it became weak in enforcement. Congressman Kenny Marchant (TX-24) has authored a new law to reveal fraudulent mortgages, using E-Verify. His bill would curb mortgage abuses and protect the taxpayers. But E-Verify has many universal innovations that would compliment illegal worker recognition, to uncover fraudulent drivers licenses, vehicle registration, even for those who illegally applying for welfare. A WORKER IS REJECTED? THEN SEE YOUR LOCAL SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE FOR CLEARANCE. THE ILLEGAL WORKFORCE WILL STAY WELL AWAY.

Then how can Pelosi tell us, that our fence is secure, when Arizona-Tucson sector border officers explain that "Out of ten (10) illegal immigrants, only one (1) is caught." I think anybody who believes our country has just 12 million illegal people, will believe just about anything Washington reports? Could they be giving this number, as they hiding the truth as they are readying this non-nonsensical AMNESTY? Not only will it have millions streaming across the Canadian and Southern border, before the act is signed? While millions more will try and slip through the enforcement net, for a future AMNESTY. Were you aware that Bush set up a Social Security totalization treaty with Mexico, with loopholes so illegal aliens could access billions of dollars? Are you also aware that massive numbers of tourists and students have for decades were never expected to leave our shores?

Learn more at NUMBERSUSA & JUDICIAL WATCH for the truth. Incidentally--THOSE WHO ENTERED--LEGALLY THROUGH ELLIS ISLAND DEMANDED NOTHING! TODAY, ALTHOUGH ILLEGAL THEY ARE COMING HERE WITH A DIFFERENT ATTITUDE, DEMANDING RIGHTS THEY DON'T HAVE.

What excuse do politicians have to sell American jobs overseas, while importing discount labor. Enact amendment to the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli bill, don't use propaganda to say the laws were broken--when never enforced. Tell your Washington and state Senators and Representatives what--YOU--want, and not--CONSPIRE--with the special interest lobbyists? Here's the Capitol Switchboard number 202-224-3121 ONE LANGUAGE, ONE FLAG AND DEPORT--ALL--ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. IT CAN BE DONE WITH THE NEW GENERATION OF E-VERIFY.

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Old 02-20-2010, 07:45 AM
 
Location: San Diego, Ca
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Great Post! Thanks for sharing. I did copy it and will forward to my contacts.
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Central Coast
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ah yes e verify, the worlds easiest way to collapse California's and serious damage the US economy. Why not collapse a 40 billion dollar a year industry, just as long as we get rid of them darned illegals?
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:42 AM
 
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ah yes e verify, the worlds easiest way to collapse California's and serious damage the US economy. Why not collapse a 40 billion dollar a year industry, just as long as we get rid of them darned illegals?
So you are saying that hiring illegal aliens is ok and we should? Or are you saying that ensuring legal immigrants and Americans get jobs is wrong? both? How do you come up with this analogy? Without political rhetoric, tell me how E-Verify cripples this nation. Or is it because businesses that have depended upon illegal practices will no longer be able to do so in this country. If they could not have afforded it, they shouldn't be in the business. Let them collapse, let Americans go back to basics, it was a nice era then. Let Americans take care of Americans if ending the instant gratification be the cost.
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Old 02-20-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Central Coast
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Let us think rationally for a moment, not emotionally. In California illegals comprise about 85% of field workers, they are here because Americans have not shown up to do the work, although they could show up, they don't.
So, we e verify, and lose 85% of the labor force, a 40 billion dollar a year industry that supports many hundreds of billions of dollars of other businesses from AG supply to the Dollar Store.

Then what happens?

Your last two sentences are just nonsense. There are 300 million people in this country that like to eat, a huge percentage of their food comes from illegal labor. You are advocating starvation for millions of Americans?

I like patriots, they always put their country first.
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Old 02-20-2010, 10:33 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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So you are saying that hiring illegal aliens is ok and we should? Or are you saying that ensuring legal immigrants and Americans get jobs is wrong? both? How do you come up with this analogy? Without political rhetoric, tell me how E-Verify cripples this nation. Or is it because businesses that have depended upon illegal practices will no longer be able to do so in this country. If they could not have afforded it, they shouldn't be in the business. Let them collapse, let Americans go back to basics, it was a nice era then. Let Americans take care of Americans if ending the instant gratification be the cost.
E-verify is going to have to be run and paid by the States, States are writting laws now and the Federal government is not going to fund a State mandated law.

the Federal government uses EV for Federal contractors. In the State of Texas, EV is only proposed for State cntractor and not every business in the state will use EV.

CA., AZ, and others are writing laws on how EV will be used their states.

If States want the Federal Government to fund EV, they will have to allow the Fed to mandate the terms in which they can use E verify.

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Old 02-20-2010, 03:45 PM
 
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Let us think rationally for a moment, not emotionally. In California illegals comprise about 85% of field workers, they are here because Americans have not shown up to do the work, although they could show up, they don't.
So, we e verify, and lose 85% of the labor force, a 40 billion dollar a year industry that supports many hundreds of billions of dollars of other businesses from AG supply to the Dollar Store.

Then what happens?

Your last two sentences are just nonsense. There are 300 million people in this country that like to eat, a huge percentage of their food comes from illegal labor. You are advocating starvation for millions of Americans?

I like patriots, they always put their country first.
Why do you keep repeating yourself over and over when I have told you at least twice now that H-2A visas for farm workers are unlimited. So how are we going to starve without illegals picking our food when we can use legal immigrants instead?
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Old 02-20-2010, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Central Coast
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Apparently you don't understand how the H2 A system works.
Now for some practical reality. If it worked, it would be used. It not only doesn't work, it was designed not to work.

Here let me help you. I need 30 harvesters to get the cabbage in before the rain hits on Monday, I need them for two days, I decide to use the H2 A system.

First, I need to apply 45 days in advance. During that 45 days I get to waste my money advertising in local media for the positions I need on Monday.

See the problem?
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Old 02-20-2010, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Apparently you don't understand how the H2 A system works.
Now for some practical reality. If it worked, it would be used. It not only doesn't work, it was designed not to work.

Here let me help you. I need 30 harvesters to get the cabbage in before the rain hits on Monday, I need them for two days, I decide to use the H2 A system.

First, I need to apply 45 days in advance. During that 45 days I get to waste my money advertising in local media for the positions I need on Monday.

See the problem?
If you are that dependent upon illegal aliens to survive..............you clearly do not deserve to be in business.
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Old 02-20-2010, 04:11 PM
 
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Apparently you don't understand how the H2 A system works.
Now for some practical reality. If it worked, it would be used. It not only doesn't work, it was designed not to work.

Here let me help you. I need 30 harvesters to get the cabbage in before the rain hits on Monday, I need them for two days, I decide to use the H2 A system.

First, I need to apply 45 days in advance. During that 45 days I get to waste my money advertising in local media for the positions I need on Monday.

See the problem?
You should know when your harvest is going to be ready to pick way in advance and to be able to plan accordingly.
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