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Old 02-21-2010, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Nova, D.C.,
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Because they are paid under the table and it saves the employer lots of tax money....
And they are paid well, as they drive good cars and have ten people living in one apt.
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Old 02-21-2010, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Nova, D.C.,
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Unless your a business owner that hires illegal Aliens, how would you have any personal knowledge that people are aliens...or thier immigration status what so ever?
I know because ICE has been here several times and it is well known in this area where I live.
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:38 AM
 
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And they are paid well, as they drive good cars and have ten people living in one apt.
Don't you know that this is just a figment of our imagination?
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: SXSW
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We are in a terrible recession, but I cannot help but notice that at least where I live and in my neighborhood area (DC, Nova), which has a high illegal immigrant population, that they all have jobs. It bewilders me. I realize some are not illegal, but I know a majority are in my area. How do they get these jobs and why do employers higher them?
Employers HIRE them because those businesses put their bottom line before their loyalty to the US. That is an American problem, not a Mexican (or any other country) one. I would take the manager aside and threaten to call ICE if they don't take care of it. This is why the illegal problem never ends. It's not a problem if illegal immigrant are looking for jobs, it's a problem when businesses hire them ABOVE LEGAL AND US CITIZENS. Getting mad at the illegal immigrants is like blaming the other woman for your husband cheating on you. It's your husband's responsibility to not be led astray, no?
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Old 02-21-2010, 11:17 AM
 
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Employers HIRE them because those businesses put their bottom line before their loyalty to the US. That is an American problem, not a Mexican (or any other country) one. I would take the manager aside and threaten to call ICE if they don't take care of it. This is why the illegal problem never ends. It's not a problem if illegal immigrant are looking for jobs, it's a problem when businesses hire them ABOVE LEGAL AND US CITIZENS. Getting mad at the illegal immigrants is like blaming the other woman for your husband cheating on you. It's your husband's responsibility to not be led astray, no?
No. It's both of their faults. Is it the "john" or the "hooker", the dealer or the junkie, come on.

Great advice otherwise.

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Old 02-21-2010, 11:30 AM
 
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Sure they're employed. There is a lot of that where I live also. They will work for very low wages, they don't expect to be given benefits like health insurance, vacation pay, overtime. They'll jam 4 or 5 families into a one family home, they often only work until they give birth and can start collecting welfare handouts, food stamps, but then they are easily replaced with another.
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Old 02-21-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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And they are paid well, as they drive good cars and have ten people living in one apt.
They are paid very well from their own standards, back home they might live pretty well but are only paid $0.50 an hour or so. So $5 to them is great pay and if they agree to bring in drugs or work long hours at $5 an hour, use food stamps and free health care, and schools feed their kids at least 2 meals, the $5 hour is free and clear income. No social security taxes taken out.

If they're trafficking drugs, you can be sure they're driving the best vehicle around.
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Old 02-21-2010, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Nova, D.C.,
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They are paid very well from their own standards, back home they might live pretty well but are only paid $0.50 an hour or so. So $5 to them is great pay and if they agree to bring in drugs or work long hours at $5 an hour, use food stamps and free health care, and schools feed their kids at least 2 meals, the $5 hour is free and clear income. No social security taxes taken out.

If they're trafficking drugs, you can be sure they're driving the best vehicle around.
Most of them around here actually are doing that. It is scary at night around here. !! Also, when you have ten people in a two bedroom that rents for $1,500, I guess you can also afford nice stuff!
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:17 PM
 
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Employers HIRE them because those businesses put their bottom line before their loyalty to the US. That is an American problem, not a Mexican (or any other country) one. I would take the manager aside and threaten to call ICE if they don't take care of it. This is why the illegal problem never ends. It's not a problem if illegal immigrant are looking for jobs, it's a problem when businesses hire them ABOVE LEGAL AND US CITIZENS. Getting mad at the illegal immigrants is like blaming the other woman for your husband cheating on you. It's your husband's responsibility to not be led astray, no?
In your little analogy both the husband and his mistress are sinning, not just the husband. Same goes for the employers and the illegal aliens. They are both breaking our immigration and labor laws, therefore they are both guilty.
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:39 PM
 
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Most of them around here actually are doing that. It is scary at night around here. !! Also, when you have ten people in a two bedroom that rents for $1,500, I guess you can also afford nice stuff!
I saw a one room apartment downtown here the was worse than that. Very shabby and it was rented to a couple with a baby. Anchor baby so I suspect the government was paying the rent. The family stayed in the one bedroom and there were 12 other people "renting" space either on the two couches, a couple chairs or floor space. One woman was someone's live-in maid who needed a place to stay just one weekends when they didn't want her around so she rented one of the chairs to sleep on.

Older house trailers can have 3 or 4 families living in them. I saw one where the couple - the single mom and her live in boyfriend had the one bedroom, another family with a baby lived in the smaller bedroom and the 3 teenagers slept in the living room. In that case the mother was getting all kinds of welfare and the housing check, the boyfriend worked but his income didn't count for welfare purposes but the young couple with the baby was new to this country and in the process of getting their own welfare checks and housing.

There was one old house trailer here that had 3 families living it but they had no money for heat since apparently they were all new arrivals. The sad thing is they were from the south part of Mexico and unfamiliar with heating of homes, so they figured out to conserve heat by bending the chimney back into the trailer and that was into the room the new twin anchor babies were sleeping in - and one day of course they didn't wake up from their naps.

Often they splice wires to get free electricity or run many extensions into old beat up trailers or poorly built homes no one should live in and of course there are fires and deaths. The free money and government handouts attract so many and they keep coming and coming to live like this.
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