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Old 02-26-2010, 09:49 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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With the left wing amnesty progressive (socialist) democrats in control of Congress getting ready to pass a very unpopular HC bill with Reconciliation so that 30 million welfare democratic voters will have health coverage the democrats stand to lose their majorities from voter backlash. That would give the republicans, with their new majority, a chance to pass a bill through Reconciliation themselves that changes the misinterpretation of the 14th amendment and ends the anchor baby industry abuse. But then Maobama would veto such a bill.
Please explain in common terms how passing any legislation alters the interpretation of the 14th.

There are Laws currently in use that were written on the current legal interpretation of the 14th to date. Writitng a Superbill doesnt negate all the Laws inacted with the current interpretation. Nor does a Superbill change the interpretation of the 14th to something New.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:50 AM
 
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It's a combination -- the politicians are a big part of it because they were bought out long ago by internationalists. They have some vision of a NAU where the US corporations have nothing but the cheapest labor, and can move their Walmarts and chain restaurants and stores throughout Mexico.

There were Catholic nuns here taking great pride in their charity work which consisted of nothing more than helping illegals find every loophole in the law and helping them to obtain as many welfare handouts they could find them. No longer do they think of doing missionary work and improving poor villages and colonias in Mexico and Central America or all of Latin America. The new charity is -- bring them all here, make sure they are pregnant before arriving or soon after so they can be given all the food stamps, Medicaid, government housing, WIC and the rest that they can be given. The new charity is not about building up third world nations, it's about bringing all the people of the third world to the USA.

So some of it is all about the cheap labor and expanding markets but a lot of it is the new kind of charity which means helping people in other countries access the welfare system in the USA.
Excellent post on the sad truth.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:54 AM
 
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Please explain in common terms how passing any legislation alters the interpretation of the 14th.

There are Laws currently in use that were written on the current legal interpretation of the 14th to date. Writitng a Superbill doesnt negate all the Laws inacted with the current interpretation. Nor does a Superbill change the interpretation of the 14th to something New.
H.R.1868 - Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009

To amend section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to clarify those classes of individuals born in the United States who are nationals and citizens of the United States at birth. view all titles (2)

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  • Short: Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Official: To amend section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to clarify those classes of individuals born in the United States who are nationals and citizens of the United States at birth. as introduced.
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:32 AM
 
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H.R.1868 - Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009

To amend section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to clarify those classes of individuals born in the United States who are nationals and citizens of the United States at birth. view all titles (2)

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  • Short: Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Official: To amend section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to clarify those classes of individuals born in the United States who are nationals and citizens of the United States at birth. as introduced.

Bills have been introduced from time to time in Congress which have sought to declare U.S.-born children of foreign nationals not to be subject to the "jurisdiction" of the United States, and thus not entitled to citizenship via the 14th Amendment, unless at least one parent were a U.S. citizen or a lawful permanent resident. For example, Representative Nathan Deal (a Republican from Georgia) introduced the "Citizenship Reform Act of 2005" (H.R. 698) in the 109th Congress, and the "Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007" (H.R. 1940)in the 110th Congress. Neither these nor any similar bills, however, have ever been approved by Congress.
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Old 02-26-2010, 11:08 AM
 
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Bills have been introduced from time to time in Congress which have sought to declare U.S.-born children of foreign nationals not to be subject to the "jurisdiction" of the United States, and thus not entitled to citizenship via the 14th Amendment, unless at least one parent were a U.S. citizen or a lawful permanent resident. For example, Representative Nathan Deal (a Republican from Georgia) introduced the "Citizenship Reform Act of 2005" (H.R. 698) in the 109th Congress, and the "Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007" (H.R. 1940)in the 110th Congress. Neither these nor any similar bills, however, have ever been approved by Congress.
Aware of that but as each year goes by and the anchor baby abuse continues out of control along with the associated costs to our country eventually our congress is going to wake up and smell the coffee. I don't think it will be in the too distant future and Americans need to press this issue.
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Old 02-26-2010, 11:33 AM
 
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Aware of that but as each year goes by and the anchor baby abuse continues out of control along with the associated costs to our country eventually our congress is going to wake up and smell the coffee. I don't think it will be in the too distant future and Americans need to press this issue.

Not only this, previous dates (2005, 2007) show the economy was not as near in dire straits as today as well as the growing knowledge regarding the nationally draining costs illegal aliens are doing to this country coupled with masssive job loss makes illegal immigration of an utmost important topic around average Americans' tables. More Americans today are seeing the repercussions of earlier political decisions.

Knowledge is power.
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Old 02-26-2010, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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All they need to do is close this loophole. Shouldn't take them more than a week to draft a 1 page bill to modify this. Kids born in the US must have parents "legally" allowed to live in the US. Then define "legally".

That is what Ron Paul is advocating. Take the legal route and don't give them a foot to stand on to begin with.
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Old 02-26-2010, 01:00 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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All they need to do is close this loophole. Shouldn't take them more than a week to draft a 1 page bill to modify this. Kids born in the US must have parents "legally" allowed to live in the US. Then define "legally".

That is what Ron Paul is advocating. Take the legal route and don't give them a foot to stand on to begin with.
If it's only going to take a week...why is it this third atempt to get this bill out for a vote...2005-2007-2010.
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Old 02-26-2010, 01:39 PM
 
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If it's only going to take a week...why is it this third atempt to get this bill out for a vote...2005-2007-2010.
Because for some unknown reason our government doesn't mind the illegals coming over here and making use of our social programs or working under the table.
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Old 02-26-2010, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Because for some unknown reason our government doesn't mind the illegals coming over here and making use of our social programs or working under the table.
or they fear the Hispanic vote?
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