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Old 02-23-2010, 09:56 PM
 
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Big rise in illegal immigrants in Southeast - Life- msnbc.com

As much as this is a sensitive topic for many I feel there's a lot of things that made sense.

Some pundits and commentators are saying there's less illegal immigration because border patrol is more successful or whatever. I'd say the reason why there is less illegal immigration because of the obvious: our economy. If there's hardly any cheap labor around there's hardly any reason for them to come here.

But if there's an influx of undocumented immigrants in a certain area that means the economy is growing and it is strong.
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Big rise in illegal immigrants in Southeast - Life- msnbc.com

As much as this is a sensitive topic for many I feel there's a lot of things that made sense.

Some pundits and commentators are saying there's less illegal immigration because border patrol is more successful or whatever. I'd say the reason why there is less illegal immigration because of the obvious: our economy. If there's hardly any cheap labor around there's hardly any reason for them to come here.

But if there's an influx of undocumented immigrants in a certain area that means the economy is growing and it is strong.
The economy is a huge factor in discouraging illegal immigration, yes. Note though that LE actions against illegals as well as growing prejudice towards hiring people who have no right being here in the first place is growing.
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Old 02-24-2010, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Big rise in illegal immigrants in Southeast - Life- msnbc.com

As much as this is a sensitive topic for many I feel there's a lot of things that made sense.

Some pundits and commentators are saying there's less illegal immigration because border patrol is more successful or whatever. I'd say the reason why there is less illegal immigration because of the obvious: our economy. If there's hardly any cheap labor around there's hardly any reason for them to come here.

But if there's an influx of undocumented immigrants in a certain area that means that the economy is growing and it is strong.
Overlooked of course is what it also tells us is that there is an ever over abundance of greedy criminal employers of illegals to be found in all areas of the US eagerly wanting to line their pockets from the profits from the so called cheap illegal alien labor, which is cheap only to the criminal employers of illegals because the so called cheap illegal labor is subsidized by the American taxpayer. Another example of a corrupt broken government.
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:08 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Big rise in illegal immigrants in Southeast - Life- msnbc.com

As much as this is a sensitive topic for many I feel there's a lot of things that made sense.

Some pundits and commentators are saying there's less illegal immigration because border patrol is more successful or whatever. I'd say the reason why there is less illegal immigration because of the obvious: our economy. If there's hardly any cheap labor around there's hardly any reason for them to come here.

But if there's an influx of undocumented immigrants in a certain area that means the economy is growing and it is strong.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/illeg...ting-more.html

It's also because they are being pushed out of certain states like AZ that have smart laws on hiring.
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:13 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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As more and more States are pushing their participation in immigration laws and enforcement, more of the immigration role and cost may be shifted to the States.

This could become a big States Rights issue in the future. The Government or even the Courts granting more freedom for State to craft Immigration for their State...Along with footing more of the bill.

If state ABC wants strict enforement of Everify and punitive laws on housing and Harboring...That state may have to pay more in detention and deportation without total reimbursment from the federal government.

As well, if state xyz doesn't have strict Everify laws, no punitive laws, no laws on housing and harboring, and detains and allows ICE to coordenate sezures and deportation, and letting the feds pickup the bill...then
each state will choose which path they take for the best of their state.
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:32 AM
 
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As more and more States are pushing their participation in immigration laws and enforcement, more of the immigration role and cost may be shifted to the States.

This could become a big States Rights issue in the future. The Government or even the Courts granting more freedom for State to craft Immigration for their State...Along with footing more of the bill.

If state ABC wants strict enforement of Everify and punitive laws on housing and Harboring...That state may have to pay more in detention and deportation without total reimbursment from the federal government.

As well, if state xyz doesn't have strict Everify laws, no punitive laws, no laws on housing and harboring, and detains and allows ICE to coordenate sezures and deportation, and letting the feds pickup the bill...then
each state will choose which path they take for the best of their state.
In the long run, getting them "out" of our Social Services programs, allowing wages to be fair and removing them from law abiding communities, will pay for itself. ALSO, once E-Verify and hammers come down on employment of illegal aliens, they'll leave, no cost.
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:38 AM
 
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Since border security is the feds responsibility then they should have to reimburse states abc and xyz for the costs incurred by illegal immigration to their respective states no matter what said states implement to deter illegal immigation within their borders.
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:51 AM
 
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It comes down to a very large number of people are glad to flip their noses at the laws that many others follow and now they expect to be moved to the front of the line, they expected to be rewarded, given the jackpot because they broke the laws.

Let them get behind the line with all those who are following the legal process. They can go home and start over, they can do things the right way this time if they want to be legal. They should not be given amnesty because that rewards lawbreakers and penalizes those who abide by the laws.
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:53 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It comes down to a very large number of people are glad to flip their noses at the laws that many others follow and now they expect to be moved to the front of the line, they expected to be rewarded, given the jackpot because they broke the laws.

Let them get behind the line with all those who are following the legal process. They can go home and start over, they can do things the right way this time if they want to be legal. They should not be given amnesty because that rewards lawbreakers and penalizes those who abide by the laws.
Amnesty is also the bait that brings in millions more law breaking criminals jockeying for the jackpot. It will drive wages down to even worse levels. Everyone in any labor job will be working for min wage.
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