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Old 06-02-2007, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Concord, NC
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Yeah yeah I know, McCain was trying to make a baseless point like always. He was saying Americans won't even pick cabbage for 20.00 an hour. He went on a limb to call the American people lazy.

He may be right to an extent. I wouldn't do it for $20/hr! That's hard laborous work. I went to college so I wouldn't have to that

 
Old 06-02-2007, 09:27 PM
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Location: Sebastian/ FL
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I refuse to pay someone many times my salary to paint my house. I went to college for 6 years and don't make that kind of money. The heck with American citizens, I am out for me and mine!
Wow....just wow...you are definately out of line!
 
Old 06-02-2007, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Concord, NC
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Wow....just wow...you are definately out of line!
How am I out of line? I am looking out for my family. Its a dog eat dog world!
 
Old 06-02-2007, 09:29 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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it is a catch 22 with no easy solution and the farmers of this state will suffer with either outcome that you lean for.
The farmers will not be able to pay higher wages then they are force to sale the land to developers and more of our food will be imported from China and other countries since it will be cheaper and we run the risk even higher for contamination of our food supply. Just another industry to go overseas with textile, furniture, automobile, manufacturing, cubicle farms.

God Bless Antartica!
 
Old 06-02-2007, 09:29 PM
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Location: Sebastian/ FL
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How am I out of line? I am looking out for my family. Its a dog eat dog world!
Listening to you...yup, NOW I believe it!
 
Old 06-02-2007, 10:21 PM
 
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Actually, where I come from ... "it's a rat eat rat world". Our MA. city just raided a fish plant and seized 350 illegals. What a mess that turned out to be! SO many of them had been here so long they had lots of children and officials couldn't decide if they were amaericans or not. Anyway, what I wanted to say is that so often people say they take jobs that no one else wants but the day after hundreds of americans were lined up outside the fish plant knowing jobs would be available.
 
Old 06-02-2007, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Sunny Phoenix Arizona...wishing for a beach.
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Actually, where I come from ... "it's a rat eat rat world". Our MA. city just raided a fish plant and seized 350 illegals. What a mess that turned out to be! SO many of them had been here so long they had lots of children and officials couldn't decide if they were amaericans or not. Anyway, what I wanted to say is that so often people say they take jobs that no one else wants but the day after hundreds of americans were lined up outside the fish plant knowing jobs would be available.

Just like the Tyson plant.
 
Old 06-02-2007, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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Anyway, what I wanted to say is that so often people say they take jobs that no one else wants but the day after hundreds of americans were lined up outside the fish plant knowing jobs would be available.
Yes, I've never bought into the idea that 'illegal' aliens are only taking on jobs that Americans do not want. I think all people want a fair wage, but given the opportunity and the ability to get away with it, a lot of employers will low ball wages by paying illegals to work. And since the illegals would like to take advantage of the opportunities here in this nation, they will do whatever it takes to make a few bucks. It's sad, but then again, I wish people would enter this country ONLY legally.

However, not all illegals are hurting for cash!

I was in Palm Springs the other day, and a guy was backing his truck into a stall where my buddy's Harley was parked. Beer in hand, mind you. Backed into the Harley. And, enough said, my buddy went berserk.

He rushed up to the guy who was also with a bunch of his buddies in the truck. My buddy asked for his driver's license, insurance and other identification. None of which the guy had. So, my buddy planned to call the police when out came a wad of cash that would make a Vegas Gambler blush.

The guy said he would pay for it. My buddy said 900 bucks. The guy paid him.

Point being is that not all illegals are broke and suffering. Many are working in construction, or whatever, under the table. Not paying taxes. And taking advantage of federal programs too. It's prevalent in CA. I don't know how much here in NC. However, it's a huge problem there (I also had my own issue when an illegal with fake insurance and credentials tore through my SUV on the freeway -- hit and run, really, since he showed the police the fake goods and walked away without a trace).

Yes, 'illegal' immigration is a federal issue affecting all states. But each state must organize to combat it. Yes, 'legal' immigration is fine. I'm all for it. But anything illegal is wrong. Even if someone else thinks it's right.
 
Old 06-03-2007, 12:23 AM
 
Location: NC
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Just read this, it tells all you need to know about illegals and the amesty bill.

Click on the "About CIS" at the top left and you will see they are non-partisan, and have no agenda. They work with the facts.


Center for Immigration Studies
 
Old 06-03-2007, 04:05 AM
 
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Default It's simple really

Immigration is Illegal I thought??

People, Mexicans I should say, come here and don't want to pay taxes, and WE are paying for their health care and that is ok??? Makes no sense. I know many Europeans who come here and work damn hard to get their citizenship.
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