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Old 02-26-2010, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Employers in Utah could be among the first in the country to face criminal charges for failing to verify their workers' immigration status, under a bill passed Friday by a legislative committee that now moves to the full Senate.

Opponents of the Utah bill said including criminal penalties could clash with federal law and place an undue burden on businesses.

A federal judge in Oklahoma has already blocked portions of an immigration law there after the U.S. Chamber of Commerce challenged it, saying the E-Verify program is unreliable and unfairly imposes penalties on employers.

Hiring Illegal Immigrants May Lead to Jail in Utah - ABC News
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Old 02-26-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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It's about time,what is the purpose of having Immigration laws,Homeland Security,ICE,Border Patrol,Social Security Cards,Labor Laws and most of all a border if we're going to ignore these laws,not utilize these departments for what they are in existence for,not properly screen documents or enforce the border then what's the point.
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Old 02-26-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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Employers in Utah could be among the first in the country to face criminal charges for failing to verify their workers' immigration status, under a bill passed Friday by a legislative committee that now moves to the full Senate.

Opponents of the Utah bill said including criminal penalties could clash with federal law and place an undue burden on businesses.

A federal judge in Oklahoma has already blocked portions of an immigration law there after the U.S. Chamber of Commerce challenged it, saying the E-Verify program is unreliable and unfairly imposes penalties on employers.

Hiring Illegal Immigrants May Lead to Jail in Utah - ABC News
Jail and revocation of their business licenses. Employment can be done by legal immigrants, Americans and even parolees who would LOVE to have a job waiting for them after prison so there is no excuse in hiring illegal aliens except to pay slave wages helping to keep the general wage low.
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Old 02-26-2010, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Hammer the employers. As others see what happens when caught they will have 3 options.
1. Continue to break the law and accept the risk.
2. Shut down and go into another line of work.
3. Change hiring practices.
I would wager that most will opt for door #3
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Old 02-26-2010, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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How about if we also line them up and allow the unemployed to throw rotten tomatoes at them?
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Old 02-26-2010, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Pa
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How about if we also line them up and allow the unemployed to throw rotten tomatoes at them?
I can go along with public humiliation. Make them do community service at unemployment offices.
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Old 02-26-2010, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Employers in Utah could be among the first in the country to face criminal charges for failing to verify their workers' immigration status, under a bill passed Friday by a legislative committee that now moves to the full Senate.

Opponents of the Utah bill said including criminal penalties could clash with federal law and place an undue burden on businesses.

A federal judge in Oklahoma has already blocked portions of an immigration law there after the U.S. Chamber of Commerce challenged it, saying the E-Verify program is unreliable and unfairly imposes penalties on employers.

Hiring Illegal Immigrants May Lead to Jail in Utah - ABC News

Finally someone is dealing with what has been the real cause of illegal immigration the whole time, the jobs magnet provided by the criminal employers of illegals. Let's face it, most of the uninvited and unwanted, except by the criminal employers, illegal aliens wouldn't be here in the first place if they hadn't been lured here by the prospect of a job from a criminal employer. Logical enforcement of laws would be to keep ratcheting up the punishment until the illegality is stopped. Jailtime for criminal employers of illegals is long, long overdue. Although we know that it'll be some flunky going to jail instead of the CEO. And the Illegal Alien Chamber of Commerce is now almost as bad as the Anti American Civil Liberty Union. Now that we know that E-verify accurately identifies legal citizens but just fails to pick up a large percentage of illegals with fake identities, why are pro illegal sympathysers/apologizers/aiders/abetters so against E-verify? Apparently, they don't want any illegals with fake identities caught.
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Old 02-27-2010, 09:17 AM
 
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How about if we also line them up and allow the unemployed to throw rotten tomatoes at them?
Good idea. No one needs these businesses. They benefit Americans in no way at all. They won't pay legal minimum wages and compete unfairly with honest businesses.
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Old 02-27-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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Anyone from Kentucky......HB 321 is a bill now in the Senate Committee on Economic Development, Tourism & Labor in Frankfort.

The bill calls to
stop hiring of illegal aliens by contractors working for local or state contracts (yea, yea, I know, they shouldn't be hired by ANYONE.....)

The message line in Frankfort 800-372-7181. A real person will answer :c)

That person will ask your name and address and that will I.D. your reps to them in order to deliver the message. All you then need to do is say that you want your reps, and each member of the committee, to know that you support HB 321. Painless.

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Old 02-27-2010, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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And the Illegal Alien Chamber of Commerce is now almost as bad as the Anti American Civil Liberty Union.
It does present a possible predicament: The Chamber Of Commerce is trotting out the old line about how we shouldn't place any "undue burdens" on businesses. Normally, this is a position that Republicans and conservatives support, but in this case, I highly doubt that most Republicans and conservatives will agree with them.
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