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Old 03-07-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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Originally Posted by 1751texan View Post
Illegal kids are allowed to attend school. the difference from the illegals allowed to attend and not is location.

illegals here, are allowed to attend school in the school district in which they reside. Down in the Texas Rio Grande Valley, Mexican kids living in Mexico that cross the border legally every day...to attend school in Texas are not allowed by the school district and State Education Agency.

Why, because the day-crosser doesnt live i the school's district...

This nothing to do with law breaking, this has to do with Texas law, Day-crossers, and the Supreme Court ruling.

Sometimes you have to have a discussion that doesnt revert back to ...cuz it illegal. This is real life...day-to-day American immigration issues.

In your post you highlighted two links to the issue of border states not allowing day-crosser from attending school in the US.

These are two different issues...illegal children being able to attend school in the US per the Ruling of the Supreme Court...and the Denying of Mexican kids from crossing the border on a daily basis, to attend school in the US.
The reason they should not attend American schools is because they are not American citizens, and they are illegal...

 
Old 03-07-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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The reason they should not attend American schools is because they are not American citizens, and they are illegal...
That is an issue between you and the Supreme Court of the United States.
 
Old 03-07-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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As a note, that's irrelevant to the school district criteria for inclusion. As long as the kids live within the district, regardless of the actual kids' legal status, the school district will continue to accept them.

What school districts care about is whether the child lives within the district's boundaries, as it means parents are paying some form of property tax to the district's coffers.

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The reason they should not attend American schools is because they are not American citizens, and they are illegal...
 
Old 03-07-2010, 10:48 AM
 
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Economically it's better to grow the pool of educated people than restrict education.
 
Old 03-07-2010, 11:01 AM
 
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In order to reverse it, either:
* A constitutional amendment must be passed
or
* A person files a Supreme Court case challenging the current status and is successfully able to argue that his or her constitutional rights are being violated because of the status quo

Either scenario would be highly unlikely

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If a group of lawyers from MALDEF managed to have our laws changed to mandate a tax-funded K-12 education for illegal aliens, why canít the same be done to reverse it? Itís a travesty.
 
Old 03-07-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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In order to reverse it, either:
* A constitutional amendment must be passed
or
* A person files a Supreme Court case challenging the current status and is successfully able to argue that his or her constitutional rights are being violated because of the status quo

Either scenario would be highly unlikely
Obviously, it wasnít ďhighly unlikelyĒ for MALDEF.
 
Old 03-07-2010, 02:18 PM
 
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Hey, I have a great idea for the national economy...eliminate education for those that are illegal as to create even MORE people who are less educated and more likely to receive benefits! That is a great solution! Having less skilled workers will be GREAT for our economy! Oh wait...

Yeah, obviously not the greatest idea out there. Clearly education is needed for ALL segments of society as to have a working society. Of course if you frame it in "us" vs. "them" you often neglect to factor how the "them" factor into society. You pretty much only focus on the "us" and not understand the impacts of the "them". Which would work, if you lived in a complete vacuum.
 
Old 03-07-2010, 02:51 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I donít believe we have ever experienced such widespread abuse of U.S. taxpayers. Itís bad enough we are forced to pay for the education of illegal aliens, but to pay millions to educate Mexicans who donít even live here, is beyond absurd.



You can say it over and over and over again, if this is not absurd, i don't know what the hek is then. Widespread abuse of U.S. taxpayers, is an understatement. I would like to see other Countries fotting the bill for illegal Americans living in other Countries. Think that would happen!
 
Old 03-07-2010, 02:53 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I dont think the idea of sending them to school is a problem....its when some schools are making another language their primary language, with english as their secondary. You wont find that kind of crap in some countries, and rightfully so.


Thank you so much for telling it as it really is. You got that right, so much of the time english, is the secondary language, if they even learn to speak english. Should not be like this at all!
 
Old 03-07-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Hey, I have a great idea for the national economy...eliminate education for those that are illegal as to create even MORE people who are less educated and more likely to receive benefits! That is a great solution! Having less skilled workers will be GREAT for our economy! Oh wait...

Yeah, obviously not the greatest idea out there. Clearly education is needed for ALL segments of society as to have a working society. Of course if you frame it in "us" vs. "them" you often neglect to factor how the "them" factor into society. You pretty much only focus on the "us" and not understand the impacts of the "them". Which would work, if you lived in a complete vacuum.
Oddly enough, another great idea for the future welfare of this country would be to coordinate the elimination of education for illegals to coincide with their speedy deportation. As pro illegal aiders/abetters are wont to say, 'these children of illegals didn't ask to be brought here illegally'. Again, oddly enough, said illegals who didn't ask to be brought here illegally, are, nevertheless, still here illegally and are subject to deportation along with their illegal parents. The US is a country of laws and all illegals are entitled to a fair and speedy.....deportation.
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