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Old 02-27-2010, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Central Coast
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As we know America is being over run with criminals and illegals, illegal in that what they are doing is illegal.
This has got me thinking about other illegal and legal activities in the past.
Hence:
Legal; imposing a tax on tea
Illegal; throwing the tea into the sea.
Illegal; New England Militiamen firing on the British at Concord.
Illegal; the Declaration of Independence.
Illegal, rebellion against the forces of the crown.
Legal, owning other humans as if they were cattle.
Illegal; hiding Anne Frank and family in a home.
Legal, killing 6 million Jews
Illegal, trying to save a Jew from the Germans.

Legal having a glass of wine on January 15th 1919
Illegal, having a glass of wine on January 16th 1919
Illegal, shooting a man in a city street
Legal, dropping a bomb from 30,000 feet and killing hundreds of people.


Common illegal acts committed by most people, including those who have a problem with illegal criminals.
Driving over the posted speed limit
having alcohol before your 21st birthday.
not coming to a complete stop at a Stop sign.
not buckling your seatbelt

"[SIZE=2] "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?" "[/SIZE]
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:40 PM
 
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As we know America is being over run with criminals and illegals, illegal in that what they are doing is illegal.
This has got me thinking about other illegal and legal activities in the past.
Hence:
Legal; imposing a tax on tea
Illegal; throwing the tea into the sea.
Illegal; New England Militiamen firing on the British at Concord.
Illegal; the Declaration of Independence.
Illegal, rebellion against the forces of the crown.
Legal, owning other humans as if they were cattle.
Illegal; hiding Anne Frank and family in a home.
Legal, killing 6 million Jews
Illegal, trying to save a Jew from the Germans.

Legal having a glass of wine on January 15th 1919
Illegal, having a glass of wine on January 16th 1919
Illegal, shooting a man in a city street
Legal, dropping a bomb from 30,000 feet and killing hundreds of people.


Common illegal acts committed by most people, including those who have a problem with illegal criminals.
Driving over the posted speed limit
having alcohol before your 21st birthday.
not coming to a complete stop at a Stop sign.
not buckling your seatbelt

"[SIZE=2] "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?" "[/SIZE]
Well that does it! We are not entitled to immigration laws or sovereign borders in this country because of all of the above. Oh wait, other countries have committed atrocities also and their citizens have broken laws also. Well that does it! No country in the world is entitled to immigration laws or borders then. Geesh!
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:46 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Originally Posted by Clarks View Post
As we know America is being over run with criminals and illegals, illegal in that what they are doing is illegal.
This has got me thinking about other illegal and legal activities in the past.
Hence:
Legal; imposing a tax on tea
Illegal; throwing the tea into the sea.
Illegal; New England Militiamen firing on the British at Concord.
Illegal; the Declaration of Independence.
Illegal, rebellion against the forces of the crown.
Legal, owning other humans as if they were cattle.
Illegal; hiding Anne Frank and family in a home.
Legal, killing 6 million Jews
Illegal, trying to save a Jew from the Germans.

Legal having a glass of wine on January 15th 1919
Illegal, having a glass of wine on January 16th 1919
Illegal, shooting a man in a city street
Legal, dropping a bomb from 30,000 feet and killing hundreds of people.


Common illegal acts committed by most people, including those who have a problem with illegal criminals.
Driving over the posted speed limit
having alcohol before your 21st birthday.
not coming to a complete stop at a Stop sign.
not buckling your seatbelt

"[SIZE=2] "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?" "[/SIZE]
You can't use the bible to justify illegal behavior.

Romans 13 states: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

I love how some folks just pick and choose the scriptures they want to follow while discarding those that get in the way of their own agendas.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Central Coast
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And some people ignore 90% of a post and just pick at what they can pick at.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Illegals and their supporters think it is a burger king menu of laws they get to choose from.

Speeding will also get you a ticket or removal of your license. Pointing out other laws being broken doesn't make the other infractions go away. Especially if it involves a life long routine of sucking off of other people's tax money.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Central Coast
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Especially if it involves a life long routine of sucking off of other people's tax money.
Is this the argument that the people who came over here to work, aren't? Pretty silly argument when you can drive out into any produce or wine or fruit growing area and see thousands of people at work.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:17 AM
 
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Is this the argument that the people who came over here to work, aren't? Pretty silly argument when you can drive out into any produce or wine or fruit growing area and see thousands of people at work.
The problem is that they don't pay enough taxes (if any) on these farm jobs to cover their social costs for both them and their families here especially if they give birth to anchor after anchor. So that makes them a net negative.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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As we know America is being over run with criminals and illegals, illegal in that what they are doing is illegal.
This has got me thinking about other illegal and legal activities in the past.
Hence:
Legal; imposing a tax on tea
Illegal; throwing the tea into the sea.
Illegal; New England Militiamen firing on the British at Concord.
Illegal; the Declaration of Independence.
Illegal, rebellion against the forces of the crown.
Legal, owning other humans as if they were cattle.
Illegal; hiding Anne Frank and family in a home.
Legal, killing 6 million Jews
Illegal, trying to save a Jew from the Germans.

Legal having a glass of wine on January 15th 1919
Illegal, having a glass of wine on January 16th 1919
Illegal, shooting a man in a city street
Legal, dropping a bomb from 30,000 feet and killing hundreds of people.


Common illegal acts committed by most people, including those who have a problem with illegal criminals.
Driving over the posted speed limit
having alcohol before your 21st birthday.
not coming to a complete stop at a Stop sign.
not buckling your seatbelt

"[SIZE=2] "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?" "[/SIZE]
None of this justifies illegal immigration. If you disagree with our laws, fight to change them through legal channels. In the meantime, we have laws, and violators should suffer the consequences.

I would refrain from attempting to support lawlessness by injecting Bible scripture into the debate. Remember, God has His own set of “laws” including, “thou shalt not steal” which illegals break on a daily basis. If you think God condones illegal immigration, then you obviously don’t know Him.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Originally Posted by Clarks View Post
As we know America is being over run with criminals and illegals, illegal in that what they are doing is illegal.
This has got me thinking about other illegal and legal activities in the past.
Hence:
Legal; imposing a tax on tea
Illegal; throwing the tea into the sea.
Illegal; New England Militiamen firing on the British at Concord.
Illegal; the Declaration of Independence.
Illegal, rebellion against the forces of the crown.
Legal, owning other humans as if they were cattle.
Illegal; hiding Anne Frank and family in a home.
Legal, killing 6 million Jews
Illegal, trying to save a Jew from the Germans.

Legal having a glass of wine on January 15th 1919
Illegal, having a glass of wine on January 16th 1919
Illegal, shooting a man in a city street
Legal, dropping a bomb from 30,000 feet and killing hundreds of people.


Common illegal acts committed by most people, including those who have a problem with illegal criminals.
Driving over the posted speed limit
having alcohol before your 21st birthday.
not coming to a complete stop at a Stop sign.
not buckling your seatbelt

"[SIZE=2] "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?" "[/SIZE]
The usual strawman BS arguments comparing American citizens who have a right to be in the US breaking American laws compared to American laws being broken by unwanted and uninvited foreign national illegal border jumpers who have no right to be here. Completely irrational and agenda driven as usual.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:54 AM
 
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Greetings,

I believe that folks who come to the USA thru the back door should be sent back, name placed on a list and not be allowed to come back here. They know its wrong and they have it down pat how to soak the Americans for a free ride. And now before you get your dander up, I know some of them are the good folks just tryin to feed there family. Just like we are doing.
Why cant they just do it the right way. They sure wouldn't put up with this from us in there homelands.
The fact they can get welfare the same day and not tax paying Americans to me "IS JUST WRONG"
if they didn't get this - they probaly wont be so fast to come to the USA.
If you dont believe me, go to the welfare office fill out the forms and it clearly tells you that if your an immigrant, you get the help the same day. Americans have to wait. When my friend showed me this, I couldn't believe it.
Now that is one big issue the pansy waist politicans should address and get straigten out.
Be Blessed
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