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Old 03-01-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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Retiring Rep. Deal Leaves 17-Year Record of Trying to End Birthright Citizenship | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels

He obviously saw the flaw and fought hard for America.

Now it's our turn.
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:14 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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This has been debated ever since the inception of the 14th Amendment. Here, a 19th century law scholar clarifies the meaning of this amendment.

Are Persons Born Within the United States Ipso Facto Citizens Thereof - George D. Collins

Unfortunately, this seems to have been lost in the rush to give illegal aliens unwarranted and unearned citizenship.
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:33 AM
 
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This has been debated ever since the inception of the 14th Amendment. Here, a 19th century law scholar clarifies the meaning of this amendment.

Are Persons Born Within the United States Ipso Facto Citizens Thereof - George D. Collins

Unfortunately, this seems to have been lost in the rush to give illegal aliens unwarranted and unearned citizenship.

Well, this is certainly an enlightenment. Proposed immediate birthright certainly has never been a popular interpretation, except by illegal aliens and their advocates.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Well, this is certainly an enlightenment. Proposed immediate birthright certainly has never been a popular interpretation, except by illegal aliens and their advocates.

except by illegal aliens and their advocates and the Supreme Court of the United States of America.
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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Shouldn't it only take like one hospital or community of any said hospital to deny citizenship to a child born to non-legal parents bring this thing to the courts?

It seems there is more than enough verbage and commensense on the issue to assume the Supreme Court would support and end to birthright citizenship.

There isn't one hospital or perhaps small town with a hospital to make this move? Going through all the mess of ballot initiaves and the such could be avoided with this simple enforcement.

With birthright citizen children numbering close to 400,000 births per year, this needs to be put on the fast-track pronto. We can't afford it anymore.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:18 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Shouldn't it only take like one hospital or community of any said hospital to deny citizenship to a child born to non-legal parents bring this thing to the courts?

It seems there is more than enough verbage and commensense on the issue to assume the Supreme Court would support and end to birthright citizenship.

There isn't one hospital or perhaps small town with a hospital to make this move? Going through all the mess of ballot initiaves and the such could be avoided with this simple enforcement.

With birthright citizen children numbering close to 400,000 births per year, this needs to be put on the fast-track pronto. We can't afford it anymore.
I dont think a Hospital has much to do in making a child born on US soil a citizen, other than helping the child out. They dont stamp..."Citizen" on the bottom of his foot.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:41 AM
 
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I dont think a Hospital has much to do in making a child born on US soil a citizen, other than helping the child out. They dont stamp..."Citizen" on the bottom of his foot.
No, they stamp it on their birth certificate.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:17 AM
 
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I think the state, since they're in charge of vital statistics, and the issuance of birth certificates, could bring it to the Supreme Court's attention by indicating on the birth certificate that the parents are illegal aliens. Surely illegal alien supporters would object to that, and take it to court. The hard part would be to get a state to pass a bill to indicate illegal alien parentage.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:21 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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No, they stamp it on their birth certificate.
The Hosptal may give a record of birth, but its the County that issues official certificates of Birth.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:38 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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I think the state, since they're in charge of vital statistics, and the issuance of birth certificates, could bring it to the Supreme Court's attention by indicating on the birth certificate that the parents are illegal aliens. Surely illegal alien supporters would object to that, and take it to court. The hard part would be to get a state to pass a bill to indicate illegal alien parentage.
First, If a State would create a Law or the Governer would issue an Excutive order...stating that No State Funds could be issued to a child, born on US soil of Illegal Alien parents, that law or EO would be struck down even before the Supreme Court would hear it.

US District courts would hear the Case Filed against the Law, and rule it Unconstitutional. if it were appealed by a State's Attorney General, the Supreme Court could review the US district Court Ruling and state that the USDC's rulling was correct and stands without any further action from the SCOTUS.
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