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Old 06-18-2011, 03:39 PM
 
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It's possible that a Caucasian European male or female would get better perspectives to stay in the US for the color of his/her skin. the same if an white American goes as a immigrant to any of the European countries. Racism exist, but people don't want to accept their biases.
I think it has to do more with similar and/or dissimilar cultures than skin color. Most of those migrating to Italy, and Europe in general, come from Muslim countries, and their religion based culture does not blend well with European culture. No country wants to be overrun by people who can't, or won't assimilate, which is what happens with unfettered illegal immigration.
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:48 PM
 
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I think it has to do more with similar and/or dissimilar cultures than skin color. Most of those migrating to Italy, and Europe in general, come from Muslim countries, and their religion based culture does not blend well with European culture. No country wants to be overrun by people who can't, or won't assimilate, which is what happens with unfettered illegal immigration.

Thank you, and yes being a American of Italian heritage, i agree. We were in Italy years and years ago, had a great time, they treated us very good, and at that time, i did not teach myself good Italian. I knew a bit of Italian not that much, but still from the States. They embraced me and my hubby, and treated us very good. Actually i would say, they went out of their way, to make us understand, but a lot of the Italians did speak some english, and were so nice.

As you say, i believe it has more to do with the differences in cultures then the actual skin color. Muslim religion would not fare well in Italy. Muslim religion i believe would not be accepted in Italy gees i wonder why!

I don't blame Italy one bit.

Sono un Felce Americano e l'amore mio Patrimonio Italiano!

Prendersi cura amico?
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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The skin color thing in Italy dont sound right. Many Italianos have dark skin, some of them look Indio Mexican and there called white.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:03 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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The skin color thing in Italy dont sound right. Many Italianos have dark skin, some of them look Indio Mexican and there called white.
Your so very correct. There are Italians in my family who are very dark skinned, and some lighter skin Italians. I am middle of the range i guess. My sister and brother are much darker skinned then I. I am not light light skin, but not dark as them either. I don't have dark color hair as they do, but lighter blondish red, and green hazel eyes.

I doubt very much it is the skin color.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:50 PM
 
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I think it has to do more with similar and/or dissimilar cultures than skin color. Most of those migrating to Italy, and Europe in general, come from Muslim countries, and their religion based culture does not blend well with European culture. No country wants to be overrun by people who can't, or won't assimilate, which is what happens with unfettered illegal immigration.
Excellent post!
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:49 PM
 
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Your so very correct. There are Italians in my family who are very dark skinned, and some lighter skin Italians. I am middle of the range i guess. My sister and brother are much darker skinned then I. I am not light light skin, but not dark as them either. I don't have dark color hair as they do, but lighter blondish red, and green hazel eyes.

I doubt very much it is the skin color.
I'm also of Italian heritage (Southern Italy) and, like your family, we run the gamut from lighter to dark--some almost Arab-like in appearance.

I know there was a problem a while back with Romanian illegals in Southern Italy. It wasn't a racial thing--mostly about economics and higher crime rate. Southern Italy is poorer than the Northern part of the country.

There is some conflict with Muslims as Italy has been a traditional Catholic country (hello--the Vatican), but with the influx of Muslims, some schools have removed crosses off the walls so as not to "offend" Muslims and it doesn't go over well with many Italians as they feel this is part of their culture.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:59 PM
 
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Italians are not helping their cause by not having babies. That is why Italy is swamped with legal and illegal immigrants.
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:05 PM
 
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Italians are not helping their cause by not having babies. That is why Italy is swamped with legal and illegal immigrants.
Italians aren't having babies? Link, please.

So, both legal and illegal immigrants are making the decision to migrate to Italy because they are worried that Italians are not procreating? Why would they care?
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Italians aren't having babies? Link, please.

So, both legal and illegal immigrants are making the decision to migrate to Italy because they are worried that Italians are not procreating? Why would they care?
"Italy’s Birth Rate is The Second Lowest in the Western World The birth rate of Italy, at a rate of 1.23 children per woman is the second lowest in the Western world. Women rarely have more than one child. The government and the Catholic Church in this staunchly Catholic nation are perplexed and concerned by this phenomenon."

Italy’s Birth Rate is The Second Lowest in the Western World

High Springs Gator is right.
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:44 PM
 
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Another link

BBC News | EUROPE | Italy: Immigration or extinction
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