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Old 06-03-2007, 05:30 PM
 
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i see what your saying eaglecall....but im just pointing out how some people act like its the magic solution to every single problem..and its not i think you know that,but some people just dont seem to understand this.........or what do you think could destroy this country quicker?illegals?crazy wars?drugs?or a combination of all???

 
Old 06-03-2007, 05:31 PM
 
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I believe the quarrel most people have is not the hispanic illegal alien's choice of music but rather the fact that it is played at eardrum shattering decibel levels. And often at 2AM. I don't care if it is a Verdi opera, I don't want the walls of my house shaking in the middle of the night because of it. This includes music from cars. And this is done for no other reason than to annoy people.
Anyone who doubts the veracity of posters' truthspeaking is cordially invited to visit my Los Angeles moderate income neighborhood to hear the rudest, meanest, least-accomodating neighbors in America, the foreign nationals and recent immigrants, legal or not, who do exactly this: position outdoor stadium-worthy amplication outside in their front yards, blast music at said level until windows on houses many blocks away shake and rattle, and threaten anyone who comes to request they turn it down. No police will intervene: they're too busy with the gangbangers.

Welcome to Los Angeles, a "sanctuary" city for illegals...
 
Old 06-03-2007, 06:00 PM
 
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Again you are going off topic. NOTHING, not even the most advanced economics book or class, can justify corruption in the judicial system of a country; wich in this case, translate into illegal immigration.
Who's justifying illegal immigration? Did you even read what I was saying and quoting? I was saying that even if we sent them back, the utopian image that YOU HAVE will not be realised due to other economic problems and moneyleaks we have in the system. Therefore, YOU using that image as a "promised" result of sending illegals back to their country is simply propaganda because that will NOT happen. Perhaps you are the one that should stop a second and read carefully.

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We are not talking here about 5, 100, 1000, one million, we are talking about 12-30 million of illegal criminal aliens!!!!!! we are talking about a whole damn country moving into ours!!! can't you understand that? Could you for one second sit and think the implications that have for the future??? Just think about the demographic change on the nation, not to mention the degradation and destruction of a whole culture; a whole identity of a nation! Nobody has the right to come here and impose something different.
You mean like what the pilgrims imposed on the Native Americans? Or the Spanish imposed on the incans and mayans? Or the French on the Canadians? At any rate, what's wrong with a demographic change? And how is a change in culture considered a destruction and degradation---just because it will no longer be the white man's majority? Oh noes!
 
Old 06-03-2007, 06:31 PM
 
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i see what your saying eaglecall....but im just pointing out how some people act like its the magic solution to every single problem..and its not i think you know that,but some people just dont seem to understand this.........or what do you think could destroy this country quicker?illegals?crazy wars?drugs?or a combination of all???

Of course a combination of all. I'm very well aware of that. I don't see the illegal immigration as a magic pill for all the problems in this nation. We have plenty of other things to fix. But under my scale, Immigration has priority.
 
Old 06-03-2007, 06:31 PM
 
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the biggest burden on social services are actually lazy citizens......but we will see...illegal aliens arent THE PROBLEM theres hundreds of problems....but it is easy to make illegals the scapegoat........
This is simply not true.
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While immigration continues to be the subject of intense national debate, with 1.5 million immigrants arriving each year and half of post-1970 immigrants and their U.S.-born children living in or near poverty and one-third having no health insurance, immigration is creating enormous challenges for the nationís schools, health care system, and physical infrastructure. Setting aside the lower socio-economic status of immigrants, no nation has ever attempted to incorporate more than 33 million newcomers into its society. Whatever one thinks of contemporary immigration, it is critically important to understand that its effect on America represents a choice. Selection criteria can be altered, as can the total number of people allowed into the country legally. Moreover, the level of resources devoted to reducing illegal immigration can also be reduced or increased. The goal of this Backgrounder has been to provide information about the impact of immigration on American society to better inform the policy discussion about what kind of immigration policy should be adopted in the future. If there is no change in immigration policy, it is almost certain that at least 15 million new legal and illegal immigrants will settle in the United States in this decade alone. Thus immigrationís impact will continue to grow if current trends are allowed to continue.
 
Old 06-03-2007, 06:37 PM
 
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Who's justifying illegal immigration? Did you even read what I was saying and quoting? I was saying that even if we sent them back, the utopian image that YOU HAVE will not be realised due to other economic problems and moneyleaks we have in the system. Therefore, YOU using that image as a "promised" result of sending illegals back to their country is simply propaganda because that will NOT happen. Perhaps you are the one that should stop a second and read carefully.



You mean like what the pilgrims imposed on the Native Americans? Or the Spanish imposed on the incans and mayans? Or the French on the Canadians? At any rate, what's wrong with a demographic change? And how is a change in culture considered a destruction and degradation---just because it will no longer be the white man's majority? Oh noes!

well, I think is more than evident through history what each ethnic or racial group have achived. Under your philosophy of cultural change, then it will be ok to go back to live naked in tee-pees and hunting to survive. Europeans were "primitive" too. They lived in caves, but thousands of years before American Indians or Africans. So I don't think for those Millionaire American indians owners of big Casinos it was a bad change. But a change that take us to a third world living? It is indeed a degradation and destruction. It is not evolution, it is revolution.
 
Old 06-03-2007, 06:43 PM
 
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Anyone who doubts the veracity of posters' truthspeaking is cordially invited to visit my Los Angeles moderate income neighborhood to hear the rudest, meanest, least-accomodating neighbors in America, the foreign nationals and recent immigrants, legal or not, who do exactly this: position outdoor stadium-worthy amplication outside in their front yards, blast music at said level until windows on houses many blocks away shake and rattle, and threaten anyone who comes to request they turn it down. No police will intervene: they're too busy with the gangbangers.

Welcome to Los Angeles, a "sanctuary" city for illegals...

I hear you brother and I absolutely understand you. I live in Miami. Life here is insanely crazy, low class. Exactly the same problems you have. People here drive inside the residential communities at 2, 3, 4 in the morning with the loud music, they carry weapons, sell and buy drugs in almost every corner, they form gangs as soon as they arrive here, they speak a mix between spanish and English so that tells me they are immigrants. They threat anyone who try to clarify the rules to them. On the streets they cut you off, they insult you, they do not respect even traffic lights, don't even know how to use a turn signal, use merge lanes as extra lanes to cut traffic, is a real chaos. Cops do nothing because most of them here are immigrants too from poor central american countries.

And the most scary part, this behavior is characteristic in legal and illegal immigrants; there is no difference in idiosincracy, way of thinking. Legal status in th USA is irrelevant when it comes to values or education of this minority.
 
Old 06-03-2007, 06:47 PM
 
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Before somebody start smashing with the classic discussion,
Yes, Americans do that too, but at an insignificant rate when you compare both groups.
No, not 100% of them are bad. There are very good between them. But so few, you never find them or see them.
 
Old 06-03-2007, 07:10 PM
 
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"And the most scary part, this behavior is characteristic in legal and illegal immigrants; there is no difference in idiosincracy, way of thinking. Legal status in th USA is irrelevant when it comes to values or education of this minority" see i dont agree with that statement at all,thats actually a very ignorant statement..judge people on a person to person basis...dont generalize based on race.....i know your smarter than that...besides being illegal they cant drive,they play loud music,oh my god the end of the world..come on now....you know how ridiculous that sounds......
 
Old 06-03-2007, 09:19 PM
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"...besides being illegal they cant drive,they play loud music,oh my god the end of the world..come on now....you know how ridiculous that sounds......

It was the end of the world for the two Virginia Beach girls that illegal immigrant Alfredo Ramos killed while driving drunk.
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