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At the SPLC website under the caption “Hate and Extremism” is a snippet from their list of “hate groups.” I wasn’t sure if “border vigilantes” referred to the Minutemen or not, because it was rather cryptic. Unlike the others, which the SPLC mentions by organization name, it was almost a subliminal message. It gave me the impression that they wanted to include this organization, but lacked any credible evidence, or anything they could possibly use to depict them as being racist.
After delving further into this issue, I located a section which lists the organizations “American Border Patrol/American Patrol.” They didn’t include a disclaimer, so again, an assumption could be made that this is in fact the Minutemen, which it is not.
There have been documented incidents of the Minutemen saving the lives of illegal aliens, so they certainly can’t be considered a hate group. Members of a hate group would have laughed as they watched them die. Yet, the SPLC plants the seed among unsuspecting readers, because they realize most associate border vigilantism with the Minutemen. IMO, this deliberate, yet subtle implication, discredits these self-touted avengers of the victims of hate.
Given that there are more than enough legitimate hate groups, I can only surmise that the SPLC has a hidden agenda regarding the anti-illegal group the Minutemen. I believe the cursory reference to “border vigilantes” -- rather than a formal indictment, speaks volumes. Why didn’t they list these border groups by name as they did others, and why did they not include a disclaimer to remove any doubt that they are not referring to the Minutemen?
In addition, they list “anti-immigrant” groups in general. If you notice, their description is vague. They deliberately state “immigrant” as opposed to “illegal alien.” They employ the same tactics as most pro-illegals who prefer the euphemisms “immigrant” or “undocumented.” According to the SPLC ANYONE who opposes illegal aliens aka “immigrants” qualifies as being hate-mongers.
While I acknowledge and commend the SPLC for their work combating the KKK and other overtly racist organizations, the legitimacy of their past or current targets does not give them a free pass to deliberately mischaracterize opponents of illegal immigration. Clearly, this is their strategy to demonize anti-illegals and portray us as being haters of “immigrants.” With that, they lose all credibility.
The fact is that the SPLC, in this context, is really no more than a front group for the Open Borders Lobby. It employs the same tactics as other such entities to gain control of the narrative of the debate and smear any group which opposes its agenda. For the SPLC, ideology trumps any form of cogent analysis on the issue.
So the organization supports the "National Council of La Raza"
And here is the SPLC's response to the Center for Immigration Studies post:
* Answering Our Critics: SPLC ‘Smear’ Dissected | Hatewatch | Southern Poverty Law Center
* The article says "The suggestion that the SPLC worked surreptitiously with La Raza and others to designate FAIR a hate group is false; the decision to list the organization was made by the SPLC alone, based on almost a decade of SPLC research. We make no apologies for sharing that research with others in the human rights community, including La Raza, which we consider an important ally."
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Originally Posted by chicagonut
Interesting and so telling that not one "La Raza" group is on their list.
On one hand I think the list was only meant to cover the Nativist groups. I'll look for the Mexica and MECHA and see what the SPLC has to say about them. (Okay, this is answered in Post #25)
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear
I noticed that as well.
Needless to say: the Mexica Movement, MEChA, etc. also need to be listed by the SPLC. Hypocrites.
"Tanton attacks us for failing to criticize groups on what he considers the hard left, such as the Nation of Islam and the Movimiento Estudiantíl Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA). He is completely wrong on the first count. We have for years listed the Nation of Islam, along with other racist black groups like the New Black Panther Party, as hate groups. Similarly, we have listed the anti-Semitic Hispanic hate group Voz de Aztlan. We have not listed MEChA because, despite Tanton’s characterization of it as “a small hard-left Hispanic group,” we have found no evidence to support charges that the organization is racist or anti-Semitic."
The Southern Poverty Law Center does not consider MEChA to be a hate group. It does consider Voz de Aztlan to be a hate group. The National Council of La Raza also criticized Voz de Aztlan. http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/0...raza%E2%80%99/ - In regards to "Mexica Movement" it seems like "Voz de Aztlan" is one of the groups within that movement.
Then the SPLC had missed the mark on Mecha and the NLCR because they are indeed racist and subversive groups.
In regards to MECHA and the NLCR, what literature from those groups suggests that they have racist feelings? ("Subversive" wasn't one of the criteria that the SPLC mentioned)
In regards to MECHA and the NLCR, what literature from those groups suggests that they have racist feelings? ("Subversive" wasn't one of the criteria that the SPLC mentioned)
Mecha has long been known as a subversive group on college campuses across the country. They advocate for a separate Mestizo nation (Atzlan) within our country. In years past because they caught so much flack for this anti-American idealogy they have toned down their rhetoric but their agenda is still the same.
The NCLR is racist because it advocates for illegal aliens in this country which just happen to be ethnically like themselves. Both groups would like nothing better than for Latinos to demographically take over this country so that they can gain political control in our country. Illegal alien Latinos are their little foot soldiers to help them achieve this goal. There is power in numbers and they know it.
Mecha has long been known as a subversive group on college campuses across the country. They advocate for a separate Mestizo nation (Atzlan) within our country. In years past because they caught so much flack for this anti-American idealogy they have toned down their rhetoric but their agenda is still the same.
The NCLR is racist because it advocates for illegal aliens in this country which just happen to be ethnically like themselves. Both groups would like nothing better than for Latinos to demographically take over this country so that they can gain political control in our country. Illegal alien Latinos are their little foot soldiers to help them achieve this goal. There is power in numbers and they know it.
Make no mistake about this. I've seen enough of these groups and read propaganda which boasts the same. They obviously know the WH is doing nothing to curb this. I truly believe our own current government is perpetuating this and not just for "illegal ag. workers".
From my understanding the main three anti-illegal immigration groups the SPLC has criticized (as in criticized in detailed written reports) are CIS, FAIR, and NumbersUSA - The SPLC accuses all three groups as having been founded by one group of people to promote an agenda while the group tries to make others believe that the three groups are independent - The SPLC also accuses all three of having ties to White supremacy movement - The Nativist Lobby: Three Faces of Intolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center
And the SPLC praised the Immigration Policy Center
* CIS: The "Independent" Think Tank | Southern Poverty Law Center "a Washington, D.C., organization that uses well-known scholars to produce reports on immigration-related issues and has debunked many of the studies issued by CIS."
** The immigration policy center's website is Immigration Policy Center
"Although many groups criticize high levels of immigration and some (categorized by the Southern Poverty Law Center as “nativist extremist” groups) typically confront or harass individual immigrants and their supporters, anti-immigrant hate groups generally go further by pushing racist propaganda." - so the SPLC's criteria for labeling a group as "anti-immigrant" is whether it submits what the SPLC deems to be racist propaganda. Groups that do not do that, in the view of the SPLC, would be labeled "nativist extremist."
The SPLC goes after hate groups based on many ethnic groups - For instance it wrote a detailed report criticizing the Nation of Islam. Nation of Islam | Southern Poverty Law Center
If any pro-keeping illegal immigrants in the USA groups actively try to excuse or cover up racism, that itself should be criticized. I am disgusted with what the Latino hate groups have done to African-Americans in parts of Los Angeles.
You may find the linked article enlightening. The SPLC profits from hate. If they can’t legitimately find it, they will invent it.
Southern Poverty Law Center Officially Declared "Left-Wing Hate Group" (http://www.chronwatch-america.com/articles/6589/1/Southern-Poverty-Law-Center-Officially-Declared-quotLeft-Wing-Hate-Groupquot/Page1.html - broken link)
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