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Old 04-08-2010, 01:30 PM
 
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We now have an additional illegal immigration problem. These illegal alien drug savages are only getting started. The carnage here will become routine, just as in Mexico.
I agree and that's why it's very important to secure the border and keep working with the Mexican army on both sides. There is a lot of pressure on these cartels so obviosly something is right.
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:31 PM
 
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I agree and that's why it's very important to secure the border and keep working with the Mexican army on both sides. There is a lot of pressure on these cartels so obviosly something is right.
On both sides of what?
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:34 PM
 
Location: southern california
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astounding when a a BP does his job, we are surprised he does not go to jail.
the lawyer game is destroying the country.
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:44 PM
 
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Great !!!!!!,How many more of these dirtbags are we going to have to deal with?These Border Patrol agents deserve a medal for protecting the USA.
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:56 PM
 
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On both sides of what?
Oh, haven’t you heard, the Mexican army enters this country at will. Nothing is done, because Mexico is our neighbor and our friend, and we don’t want to do anything to offend them. The fact that they escort the drug cartels is ok, as long as they conduct business in an affable manner.
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:19 PM
 
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Oh, haven’t you heard, the Mexican army enters this country at will. Nothing is done, because Mexico is our neighbor and our friend, and we don’t want to do anything to offend them. The fact that they escort the drug cartels is ok, as long as they conduct business in an affable manner.
That is absolutely preposterous! All the more reason - build the wall, shut off the border, and be sure to escort the interlopers beyond the wall before the last bricks are laid.

We will continue to have legal ports of entry - for legal trans border traffic.

And pro-illegals wonder why we use the word 'invasion' when another country's armed forces are breaching our borders at their own will.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:45 AM
 
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Oh, haven’t you heard, the Mexican army enters this country at will. Nothing is done, because Mexico is our neighbor and our friend, and we don’t want to do anything to offend them. The fact that they escort the drug cartels is ok, as long as they conduct business in an affable manner.
I know you know exactly what I meant. I never said the Mexican Army should enter at it's own will. I said,"work together" and when you work together there are certain agreements, nothing is at free will. As I pointed out in the other thread, BP said that the Mexican army is working on some operation. Many Mexican soldiers have died during this drug war. They have turned in some of the worst drug lords to the US. All so that the top drug consuming country will find another avenue to get it's drugs. The drug war is not over. It's just starting.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:59 AM
 
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That is absolutely preposterous! All the more reason - build the wall, shut off the border, and be sure to escort the interlopers beyond the wall before the last bricks are laid.

We will continue to have legal ports of entry - for legal trans border traffic.

And pro-illegals wonder why we use the word 'invasion' when another country's armed forces are breaching our borders at their own will.
Contrary to what the open borders group advocates for, closing the border except for the legal ports of entry, does work. I have interviewed people in Mexico who have tried to enter illegally and returned back because they have found areas with new fencing. It will be even more difficult when the entire border is completed.

This paticular incident happened to be doing an operation legally, per BP. Another department submitted an investigation. There are no other cases, that I know of, where the US has confirmed that there was a formal investigation and found the Mexican military to be on US soil illegally. Therefore you cannot call that an invasion.
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Old 04-09-2010, 07:00 AM
 
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I know you know exactly what I meant. I never said the Mexican Army should enter at it's own will. I said,"work together" and when you work together there are certain agreements, nothing is at free will. As I pointed out in the other thread, BP said that the Mexican army is working on some operation. Many Mexican soldiers have died during this drug war. They have turned in some of the worst drug lords to the US. All so that the top drug consuming country will find another avenue to get it's drugs. The drug war is not over. It's just starting.
Actually; drug consumption is dropping here in the USA, at least on a per capita basis. Where it is increasing is Mexico proper since the narcos are finding it harder and harder to transport their 'product' across our southern border. Too, the narcos are hooking up with Italian, etc. groups to sell drugs in Europe these days--------more profit.
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Old 04-09-2010, 07:51 AM
 
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I know you know exactly what I meant. I never said the Mexican Army should enter at it's own will. I said,"work together" and when you work together there are certain agreements, nothing is at free will. As I pointed out in the other thread, BP said that the Mexican army is working on some operation. Many Mexican soldiers have died during this drug war. They have turned in some of the worst drug lords to the US. All so that the top drug consuming country will find another avenue to get it's drugs. The drug war is not over. It's just starting.
I was expressing MY opinion of why/how the Mexican military would work from both sides of the border. Sorry if it appeared I was responding for you, because that was not my intent.

It is well-documented that the drug cartels own a huge percentage of Mexico, including the military. It is also well-documented that the Mexican military routinely enters this country at will, and absolutely nothing is done. This is tolerated due to influential people on both sides of the borders who profit from the drug trade.

Granted, there are ethical members of the Mexican military who are actually doing their best to fight drug traffickers. However, there are also many, many corrupt members who do in fact escort the cartels, and are complicit in the carnage both in Mexico and in the US. As someone with experience in Mexico, I’m sure you are aware of the rampant corruption at all levels of the Mexican government. The Mexican military can NOT be trusted, just as a fox cannot be trusted to guard a henhouse.
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