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Old 04-24-2010, 05:34 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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An even better law would be to go after the businesses that employ illegal immigrants. Charge one, big fine. Charge two, even bigger fine. Charge three, huge fine and loss of business license.
I would support this. Employers are already required to gather such documentation on employees and face consequences for not doing so; the law just needs to be better enforced.

I would NOT support a new law that requires us to sacrifice our Constitutional principles by indiscriminately subjecting all legitimate Hispanic-Americans to second-class citizen treatment in order to get at the illegals.

Last edited by ambient; 04-24-2010 at 05:43 PM..
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Old 04-24-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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That I would much rather live with immigrants legal or illegal than Stormfronters and Klansmen like the ones who produced Arizona's bill. They don't stink up the room.

That clear it up for you?
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Fail....please don't try again
Make a note, Rick my lad -

Never ask a question if you don't want a straight answer. I was dead serious about not wanting anything to do with bigots.
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Old 04-24-2010, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Who says that people will be randomly stopped because of color? That's not what is being done. But if you apply for a job in Arizona, then you have to prove that you are either a legal resident, or a US citizen. Also, if you are driving in Arizona and break some traffic law, you present the police with your driver's license and vehicle registration upon request. If you are just visiting Arizona and aren't a resident of the State, your driver's license will indicate so.
That may not be what is happening now, but that is what the new law opens the door to do, and it will happen until the Supreme Court shoots it out of the saddle.

Applying for a job may require ID. That is entirely reasonable.

"Walking And Minding Own Business While Brown-skinned" should not be considered a crime.

Read your Fourth Amendment before you decide you want to give it up. It's there to protect you, too.
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Old 04-24-2010, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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How should I "look" when I visit Arizona?
Like you belong in this country? Can you speak English? Are you loitering around on street corners waiting for a job?

I wonder if anyone has even bothered to read the bill or is this another hysterical party by the Left?

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A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY NOT SOLELY CONSIDER RACE, COLOR OR NATIONAL ORIGIN IN IMPLEMENTING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SUBSECTION EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY THE UNITED STATES OR ARIZONA CONSTITUTION.

A. IN ADDITION TO ANY VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW, A PERSON IS GUILTY OF WILLFUL FAILURE TO COMPLETE OR CARRY AN ALIEN REGISTRATION DOCUMENT IF THE PERSON IS IN VIOLATION OF 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1304(e) OR 1306(a).
If you are here legally and fail to carry your "green card", you will be fined, but that really hasn't changed because you are required to carry your green card anyway.

I just thought of something;

Obama wants us all to "prove" we have purchased HC insurance, but he doesn't think people here in the US illegally should "prove" they belong here.

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Old 04-24-2010, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Can illegal aliens get a driver's license?

Yes
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Back to the subject of the thread, how should an American of hispanic descent dress when visiting Arizona, to avoid an all expenses paid tour of Nogales.

I still go with a black wig and trying to pass as Navajo
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:49 PM
 
Location: mancos
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also be careful not to stray into Mexico.if you dont have the proper papers its jail for you.get caught working there its jail x 2
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:53 PM
 
Location: FL/TX Coasts
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Back to the subject of the thread, how should an American of hispanic descent dress when visiting Arizona, to avoid an all expenses paid tour of Nogales.

I still go with a black wig and trying to pass as Navajo
when stopped...tell them you are Geronimo...and they need to learn your language and assimilate to your culture.
and if they don't like it...they can create a Fifth-Columbus-Voyage back to their Europe.

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Old 04-24-2010, 06:58 PM
 
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Back to the subject of the thread, how should an American of hispanic descent dress when visiting Arizona, to avoid an all expenses paid tour of Nogales.

I still go with a black wig and trying to pass as Navajo
I'm thinking of dressing up as an old white man who lost the election and can't accept it. I'll be the one wandering around muttering about pork. They'll love me!
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:04 PM
 
Location: mancos
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I'm going to the grand canyon as a tourist with a camera should be fun. dont let me down wear your costumes
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