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Old 04-27-2010, 02:46 PM
 
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What makes what Arizona is doing anymore unconstitutional than random DUI checkpoints where they stop you to see if you had been drinking and run all of your paperwork? There is absolutely NO probable cause for the random check but there is no hysteria over this practice? Can someone explain what the difference is?
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Old 05-31-2010, 08:00 PM
 
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Lol... thats an easy one. I "Feel" the law is wrong, and will do whatever it takes to skew the facts and give you half truths till you believe it's wrong. Easy enough?
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Old 06-01-2010, 08:59 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Driving is a privlage, you can chose to drive or not. If you chose to drive then you adhere to rules and accept these rules. The roads are for auto traffic and the State Police is in charge of policing those roads. If they place a road block, you have given your consent to check points by virtue of your participation in the act of driving.

Being a citizen is a right, and there is no Federal law, or Constitutional amendment that states you must show proof of immigration satus/ citizenship for American citizens. While with-in the borders of your country, there is not reason to ask you for proof of immigration status or citizenship going about your daily business. The only exception to this rule is when you leave and re-enter the Country. But, travel is a again a privialge and when you leave the country, you accept you will asked upon returning, your business in the US and may be asked your nationality or residence. Your passport acts as your proof of nationality.

Your state may require you to show proof of citizenship if offering you a benifit or service, but those are voluntary programs to which you may choose to, or not to participate.
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Driving is a privlage, you can chose to drive or not. If you chose to drive then you adhere to rules and accept these rules. The roads are for auto traffic and the State Police is in charge of policing those roads. If they place a road block, you have given your consent to check points by virtue of your participation in the act of driving.

Being a citizen is a right, and there is no Federal law, or Constitutional amendment that states you must show proof of immigration satus/ citizenship for American citizens. While with-in the borders of your country, there is not reason to ask you for proof of immigration status or citizenship going about your daily business. The only exception to this rule is when you leave and re-enter the Country. But, travel is a again a privialge and when you leave the country, you accept you will asked upon returning, your business in the US and may be asked your nationality or residence. Your passport acts as your proof of nationality.

Your state may require you to show proof of citizenship if offering you a benifit or service, but those are voluntary programs to which you may choose to, or not to participate.
You and your open border lobby pro illegal sympathisers/aiders/abetters certainly think that you have learned how to game the system for illegal aliens don't you? Why there's just no way to rid this country of it's 20 plus million infestation of illegal aliens according to you is there?
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Old 06-01-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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What makes what Arizona is doing anymore unconstitutional than random DUI checkpoints where they stop you to see if you had been drinking and run all of your paperwork? There is absolutely NO probable cause for the random check but there is no hysteria over this practice? Can someone explain what the difference is?
There is no obvious difference.
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Old 06-01-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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No difference...there is a citizenship check on I-5 in Southern California.
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