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Unread 04-28-2010, 05:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by sindey View Post
Well I would love to know what agency gives assistance such as welfare,food stamps & health care to illegals in Phoenix.
It doesn't happen. period.

Mexican citizens also come to Phoenix and spend millions here.
If an illegal works here, they spend money here.
If they are so valuable why aren't States fighting over who gets the most? Please.
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Unread 04-28-2010, 05:38 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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[quote=TriMT7;13948752]I think a lot of opposition is overblown so far.

I think "reasonable suspicion" might include clues such as --- no knowledge of English, and not having an American issued identification (non citizens are already required by law to have ID at all times... just like they do in Europe and points S.O.B.) .... American citizens are supposed to have some knowledge of English before becoming citizens, or heck, a social security number!

My father is a legal immigrant. I have a Spanish/Portuguese last name. When he lets his hair grow out and stays in the sun too long, he looks like a Mexican stereotype. If he were ever travelling through Arizona, his accent and looks may cause "probable cause" if he committed a crime and the police had "lawful contact" with him. Even if he didn't have his green card on him, any policeman with half a brain could ask a series of questions, find out he's been in the country since 1970, has three American children, an American ex-wife, has a social security number and a driver's license and he could answer specific questions related to his lawful entry into the US (most who go through the arduous process do not soon forget what it takes, as opposed to the "line jumpers").
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If the police blatantly abused their powers, they would be sued in a NY minute.
I'm sure the lawsuits will be flowing
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Unread 04-28-2010, 05:40 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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If they are so valuable why aren't States fighting over who gets the most? Please.
You are so quick to get angry about illegals and it's NOT a new problem.

Have any suggestion or solutions to the border not being protected as it should?
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Unread 04-28-2010, 05:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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You are so quick to get angry about illegals and it's NOT a new problem.

Have any suggestion or solutions to the border not being protected as it should?
If the Feds won't do it the States HAVE to. The not a new problem IS the problem.
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Unread 04-28-2010, 05:44 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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If the Feds won't do it the States HAVE to. The not a new problem IS the problem.
Do What?
The new law has NOTHING to do with protecting our border.

I know someone who was deported and was back in Phoenix in 9 days.
At the cost to deport we should be taking care of the borders FIRST.
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Unread 04-28-2010, 05:47 PM
 
Location: New York (liberal cesspool)
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Default Sindey

Do you believe in our Constitution and our rights as a sovereign republic?
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Unread 04-28-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles California
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What does the Catholic Archbisop refer it's Pedophile Priests to.The Catholic Church is part of the problem,not part of the answer so it has no relevance.California has enough of a financial crisis going on with it's budgets both State and Los Angeles to worry about.I wonder why?The Catholic Church in it's Grand Hypocrisy seems to forget that it hid and aided Nazis during and after WW2 so this is total hipocrisy.California needs to do something as Illegal Aliens are burdening it's infrastructure and is costing the State Billions.
The Catholic Church should mind its own business and pay some taxes to help some American citizens once in a while instead of freeloading off of Federal, State & Local govts. Oh, wait a minute. The Church and the illegals have that in common, don't they?
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Unread 04-28-2010, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by sindey View Post
Well I would love to know what agency gives assistance such as welfare,food stamps & health care to illegals in Phoenix.
It doesn't happen. period.

Mexican citizens also come to Phoenix and spend millions here.
If an illegal works here, they spend money here.
Well Sidney, it does happen and rather than get specific here publicly, I sent you a very long detailed direct message about it.
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Unread 04-28-2010, 11:35 PM
 
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Here's a couple clues for you: (of course you would be like the ones in the video that can't tell the difference, the ones being mocked, you see no difference)


YouTube - Mex vs BC (Born Citizen) Pt. 2 -- "JOBS"


YouTube - Mex vs BC (Born Citizen) Pt. 5 - "CITIZENSHIP"
I disagree with you. It's a funny video but it does not distinguish between legal and illegal. It does not even distinguish an American born from a Mexican born.

Look at the first video. My father looks like the BC with the exception of accent. I know people who look like "Mex" and are citizens of this country. I also have a male cousin who would fit the "Mex" description, was born here in the US, raised in Mexico and returned as an adult.

The only thing that is very telling of both characters is social class. Other than that, they could both be citizens of the US.
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Unread 04-28-2010, 11:40 PM
 
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I take back my last sentence, it does not show social class but rather working class.
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