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Old 04-29-2010, 12:07 PM
 
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Isn't a holder of a green card a citizen of this country? A naturalized citizen?
Uh no, a green card holder is a legal resident alien. Not a citizen, naturalized or otherwise.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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I'm not carrying any papers that show im born in this country. If the cops want to arrest me go ahead. I will sued the crap out of Arizona.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:10 PM
 
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Tell that to this Hispanic Truck driver who had his drivers license and other documents on his person when stopped at an Arizona truck stop.

Truck driver forced to show birth certificate claims racial-profiling

PHOENIX – A Valley man says he was pulled over Wednesday morning and questioned when he arrived at a weigh station for his commercial vehicle along Val Vista and the 202 freeway.


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Uh, huh and I would like to hear both sides to this story. Until I do I will remain skeptical.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Tell that to this Hispanic Truck driver who had his drivers license and other documents on his person when stopped at an Arizona truck stop.

Truck driver forced to show birth certificate claims racial-profiling

PHOENIX – A Valley man says he was pulled over Wednesday morning and questioned when he arrived at a weigh station for his commercial vehicle along Val Vista and the 202 freeway.
He was detained by ICE, Ill say it again, ICE, while at a weigh station because he did not have all his documents. Has nothing to do with the new law (local law inforcement vs. federal agents). This law is not even in effect yet.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Uh no, a green card holder is a legal resident alien. Not a citizen, naturalized or otherwise.
Yeah, they explained that.

I've never had one. It must mean I'm not allowed to be here...or I'm just not a resident alien. Take your pick.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:43 PM
 
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I'm not carrying any papers that show im born in this country. If the cops want to arrest me go ahead. I will sued the crap out of Arizona.
All you need to do is have your DL on you. You aren't required to carry your birth certificate. Me thinks thou dost protest too much.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:46 PM
 
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I am willing to be ID'd from time to time if it will help stop illegal immigration. I have nothing to hide.
Are there any more constitutional rights and personal liberties you are willing to give up because you have nothing to hide?

How about random searches of your home? You don't got anything to hide.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:46 PM
 
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Yeah, they explained that.

I've never had one. It must mean I'm not allowed to be here...or I'm just not a resident alien. Take your pick.
You don't know if you are allowed to be here or not? How did you come here in the first place?
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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How about random searches of your home? You don't got anything to hide.
My home is not overcrowded with a dozen people, ten cars out front parked illegally with fraudulent inspection stickers, loud music playing with electricity tapped at the pole and beer bottles and diapers in the yard.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:49 PM
 
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Are there any more constitutional rights and personal liberties you are willing to give up because you have nothing to hide?

How about random searches of your home? You don't got anything to hide.
Oh, I see anytime you are asked to show your I.D. you are giving up your constitutional rights? Hope you don't plan on using any credit cards soon or boarding a plane. Good luck with that! Funny, I have never had my home randomly searched and neither have most Americans regardless of their ethnicity or race.
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