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Old 04-28-2010, 02:53 PM
 
Location: TX
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Did you know people say "The United States is" rather than are. The only time they used "are" (refering to the country as a plurality) was before the Civil War.

Nice. I like mine better.

(So ... do you live in Arizona?)
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:00 PM
 
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There is a big difference for stopping someone walking the street and asking them the questions and stopping someone in a car or worse going into their home. There has to be something more to stop someone in their car other than...I had a reasonable suspicion that he was illegal, because again...what does an illegal look like? That is why the law will likely be held unconstitutional. The bill just goes to far, and as detailed as the bill is, it is too vague on this point. There are other constitutional problems with the bill, but this, to me, is the most glaring example.
Actually, that's why the law does not allow that. It's not vague, the law says that they have to be stopped for something else first, so that concern is unfounded. The law also says that race and ethnicity can't be the reason for the questioning (sounds pretty specific too).
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Nice. I like mine better.

(So ... do you live in Arizona?)
My state of residence is irrelevant.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:40 PM
 
Location: In Transition
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If you knew anything about the issue of immigration they don't come to America to kill or even committ violent crimes.
No, but by definition, illegal immigrants DO commit crimes such as identify theft and fraud. I say by definition because in order for them to land many jobs, illegals have to "show their papers" to the employers. These papers are a result of identity theft. These various documents have to have legit IDs on them. And believe me, identify theft is NOT a victimless crime, no not at all. But we don't hear any sympathy on the left for those people, do we?

And that's another thing. Among the mainstream media faux outrage of "show your papers", they don't seem to have a problem with illegals doing mass quantity of identity theft, and "showing their papers" to employers and the gov't (i.e., IRS).

However, I do agree that NAFTA _must_ go, and the first presidential candidate and congressional candidates who advocate this has my vote. Plus, we really need to crack down on MAJOR (not just minor) employers of illegals.
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