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Old 04-28-2010, 03:49 PM
 
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I am also an Arizona resident and voter and I also do not support this bill for the reasons that azriverfan outlined. In addition, this bill does not really get at the economic causes of illegal immigration. If you cut off the ability to work then you will get rid of illegals very fast.

Illegal immigration is bad for Americans, bad for the economy, bad for society and, importantly, it is bad for the illegals themselves.
As an informed resident of AZ I am surprised you are not aware of this bill:

Migration Information Source - Arizona Employer Sanctions Law Takes Effect
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:57 PM
 
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As an informed resident of AZ I am surprised you are not aware of this bill:

Migration Information Source - Arizona Employer Sanctions Law Takes Effect
But it isn't working and this bill will not do the job either. While there are jobs for them there will be illegals.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:58 PM
 
Location: AL
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Legal citizens are going to have their rights violated as a result of this law.

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And no one opposed presenting a mandatory ID
How are legal citizens going to have there rights violated...See this more pro-illegal double speak.
You have still not answer this question?

You keep saying the rights of people will be violated...then you are assuming that Arizona police officers are racist and will only look at brown people!
If thats is the case then police in your eyes are no good and cant be trusted.

Which is it?
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:59 PM
 
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How are legal citizens going to have there rights violated...See this more pro-illegal double speak.
You have still not answer this question?

You keep saying the rights of people will be violated...then you are assuming that Arizona police officers are racist and will only look at brown people!
If thats is the case then police in your eyes are no good and cant be trusted.

Which is it?
But, in Arizona, the vast majority of illegal immigrants are brown.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:01 PM
 
Location: AL
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But, in Arizona, the vast majority of illegal immigrants are brown.

Ummm and?

Obviously none of you people who are bashing this law really trust the police,that in itself is sad.....
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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How are legal citizens going to have there rights violated...See this more pro-illegal double speak.
You have still not answer this question?

You keep saying the rights of people will be violated...then you are assuming that Arizona police officers are racist and will only look at brown people!
If thats is the case then police in your eyes are no good and cant be trusted.

Which is it?
Legal citizens will inevitably have their rights violated through unreasonable search and seizure.

And read my spiel about being "pro-illegal"

If you really think that's my POV, you couldn't be any more wrong.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Ummm and?

Obviously none of you people who are bashing this law really trust the police,that in itself is sad.....
Police aren't perfect. And with the threat of towns suing their PD, more rights will inevitably be violated.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: AL
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Legal citizens will inevitably have their rights violated through unreasonable search and seizure.

And read my spiel about being "pro-illegal"

If you really think that's my POV, you couldn't be any more wrong.
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Police aren't perfect. And with the threat of towns suing their PD, more rights will inevitably be violated.

Yep...I thought you would show your true colors....So whats the difference from any law..according to you,police are just going around violating peoples right..cause they can.

Pal you have trust issues.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:12 PM
 
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Ummm and?

Obviously none of you people who are bashing this law really trust the police,that in itself is sad.....
The police are between a rock and a hard place. If they catch too many illegals they will be accused of profiling and if they try to even things up by stopping non-brown people they will be accused of harassing citizens. Fact is, to do their job properly they have to profile. This bill puts them in an impossible situation.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Yep...I thought you would show your true colors....So whats the difference from any law..according to you,police are just going around violating peoples right..cause they can.

Pal you have trust issues.
Okay, we'll see how you feel when you're pulled over, show your license, then get told to show your documentation and proof of citizenship.
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