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Old 04-28-2010, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It seems that 64% of Arizona likely voters agree with the law and only 30% don't. That would be about like the numbers I am seeing here, but so those in the minority here can see if they consider the poll I am quoting fair or not here is a link to the questions that were asked on the phone survey.

Toplines - Arizona and Immigration - April 27, 2010 - Rasmussen Reportsâ„¢

You can read the article about outcomes by clicking on the article in the upper left hand part of the question sheet.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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They like it, even though it doesn't go into effect for 90 days. I would like it too if my city/town where overrun with illegals.

The Governor's ratings have shot up;

Election 2010: Arizona Governor - Rasmussen Reportsâ„¢

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A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters in the state shows that 56% now approve of the way Brewer is performing her role as governor. Two weeks ago, just 40% offered their approval.
Excellent.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:21 AM
 
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I'm an Arizona resident and a Sheriff Joe supporter. I'm also a Republican and a strong supporter of immigration reform. Most of the people in Arizona do not support this law including me. 40% of the Arizona population consists of Hispanic Americans like myself. Hispanic Americans, contrary to popular belief, endorse strong immigration reform and don't favor illegal immigration. However, this law targets U.S. citizens like myself. Yes, yes, "Just show them your driver's license"....sorry...I shouldn't have to. I'm born and raised in this country. I shouldn't have to carry a copy of my passport or show my driver's license out of being racially profiled and harrassed. I can understand showing proof of citizenship if there is probable cause ie I broke the law. However, this law doesn't mandate probable cause and gives law enforcement the right to question anyone's citizenship status based on "reasonable suspicion" which is not specific and can essentially mean anything.

This law would not have taken place if Governor Jan Brewer did not sign this into law. Jan Brewer was not elected to the governorship. She inherited it when Janet Napolitano left to become the Homeland Security Secretary. Arizona residents voted for Napolitano not Brewer.

Rasmussen is a conservative polling group. I wonder what percentage of those they polled were Hispanic Americans because 40% of the Arizona population is Hispanic American.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:26 AM
 
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Thanks, roy. My views line up with the majority on each question. Indeed, I'm unsure whether the law will end up violating the rights of citizens, a virtual split vote in question #4.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:33 AM
 
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I am also an Arizona resident and voter and I also do not support this bill for the reasons that azriverfan outlined. In addition, this bill does not really get at the economic causes of illegal immigration. If you cut off the ability to work then you will get rid of illegals very fast.

Illegal immigration is bad for Americans, bad for the economy, bad for society and, importantly, it is bad for the illegals themselves.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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I'm an Arizona resident and a Sheriff Joe supporter. I'm also a Republican and a strong supporter of immigration reform. Most of the people in Arizona do not support this law including me. 40% of the Arizona population consists of Hispanic Americans like myself. Hispanic Americans, contrary to popular belief, endorse strong immigration reform and don't favor illegal immigration. However, this law targets U.S. citizens like myself. Yes, yes, "Just show them your driver's license"....sorry...I shouldn't have to. I'm born and raised in this country. I shouldn't have to carry a copy of my passport or show my driver's license out of being racially profiled and harrassed. I can understand showing proof of citizenship if there is probable cause ie I broke the law. However, this law doesn't mandate probable cause and gives law enforcement the right to question anyone's citizenship status based on "reasonable suspicion" which is not specific and can essentially mean anything.

This law would not have taken place if Governor Jan Brewer did not sign this into law. Jan Brewer was not elected to the governorship. She inherited it when Janet Napolitano left to become the Homeland Security Secretary. Arizona residents voted for Napolitano not Brewer.

Rasmussen is a conservative polling group. I wonder what percentage of those they polled were Hispanic Americans because 40% of the Arizona population is Hispanic American.
Another flat out lie. Most people in Arizona DO support the bill.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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It seems that 64% of Arizona likely voters agree with the law and only 30% don't. That would be about like the numbers I am seeing here, but so those in the minority here can see if they consider the poll I am quoting fair or not here is a link to the questions that were asked on the phone survey.

Toplines - Arizona and Immigration - April 27, 2010 - Rasmussen Reportsâ„¢

You can read the article about outcomes by clicking on the article in the upper left hand part of the question sheet.

Rasmussen Hahahaha!, lucky it wasn't 135% support
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Apparently they stop counting at 3 when teaching the Constitution in AZ schools.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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A question for those that oppose the new law-what would you suggest to get a handle on the criminal alien problem? Counting on the feds isn't working, they lack the willingness to handle their responsibility. Obviously the state needs to do something-what do you suggest?
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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A question for those that oppose the new law-what would you suggest to get a handle on the criminal alien problem? Counting on the feds isn't working, they lack the willingness to handle their responsibility. Obviously the state needs to do something-what do you suggest?
Illegal immigrants are here primarily for economic reasons ..... because they can make a whole lot more money than they can in their home countries. Therefore, the way you get a handle on it is to hit those who employ illegal aliens so hard that they will never want to do it again.

With the recession we saw how many illegals went home because they had no work. If the jobs dry up then the illegals will go home (or to California ). It really is as simple as that.

Stopping people on the street and asking for papers is not an effective way to deal with the problem. It might make people feel better but, while the jobs are still there, the illegals will still take their chances.
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