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Old 05-04-2010, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Needless to say: if the USA needs fresh blood; legal immigrants from English speaking nations (Ireland, UK, Australia, Belize, South Africa, India, etc.) need to go to the top of the list followed by folks from other First World nations i.e. France, Germany, Spain, etc. As for the rest of the world like Mexico, let them fight over the rest of the immigration visas.
What ever happend to bring me your tired, poor and all that good stuff. What you want doesn't sound very American to me.
You think people born in Developed (we don't used 1st world, 3rd world anymore) are better than people in developing countries, who don't speak english?
Hmmmm.

And people in Arizona say it has nothing to do with race and nationality. Yea right!
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Mastic Beach
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Thank god! I hope we all get together on this.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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What ever happend to bring me your tired, poor and all that good stuff. What you want doesn't sound very American to me.
You think people born in Developed (we don't used 1st world, 3rd world anymore) are better than people in developing countries, who don't speak english?
Hmmmm.

And people in Arizona say it has nothing to do with race and nationality. Yea right!
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Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
You mean all of that good stuff?

That good stuff which greeted LEGAL immigrants on their way through to Ellis Island as they LEGALLY immigrated to the United States?

Is that the good stuff you're talking about?

Just a little FYI: The United States of America allows more legal immigrants into this country every year than every other country on Earth combined. We have the most liberal immigration policies in the world.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:01 PM
 
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It's spurring government action alright..but the wrong way.

The Fed is backing off and taking immigration reform off the table while the states talk about enacting bills.

Obama's administration needs to address this; this is a FEDERAL issue. I do not blame the states at all for taking their own action because the Fed wants to do nothing nor acknowledge the problem nor provide the border control it is supposed to be doing.

If anything..be mad at the current administration for running away from this yet being the first to point a finger.
The current Administration wants to take it off the table so that in the November elections they could still have a chance of winning. They want everyone to put the blame on the Republicans. The majority of Americans want the tough immigration law. So, this is going to backfire on the Dems, IMO.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:10 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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It's spurring government action alright..but the wrong way.

The Fed is backing off and taking immigration reform off the table while the states talk about enacting bills.

Obama's administration needs to address this; this is a FEDERAL issue. I do not blame the states at all for taking their own action because the Fed wants to do nothing nor acknowledge the problem nor provide the border control it is supposed to be doing.

If anything..be mad at the current administration for running away from this yet being the first to point a finger.
In 1996 the Illegal Immigration Reform and Responsibility Act (IIRAIRA 96) was signed into law by then President Bill Clinton. Among other things, this bill gives states the right to enforce Federal immigration law.

This IS a state issue and states have a responsibility to their citizens. I'm glad that there are some who are willing to step up to the plate and take that responsibility on, no matter what sort of flak they receive from naysayers.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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What ever happend to bring me your tired, poor and all that good stuff. What you want doesn't sound very American to me.
You think people born in Developed (we don't used 1st world, 3rd world anymore) are better than people in developing countries, who don't speak english?
Hmmmm.

And people in Arizona say it has nothing to do with race and nationality. Yea right!
Bottom line: we (the USA) can cherry-pick whom we let in. If a bunch of illiterate peasants from _______ are upset---------too bad. We have enough Americans who are not college material who have the right to live/work here. Illegals do not.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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In 1996 the Illegal Immigration Reform and Responsibility Act (IIRAIRA 96) was signed into law by then President Bill Clinton. Among other things, this bill gives states the right to enforce Federal immigration law.

This IS a state issue and states have a responsibility to their citizens. I'm glad that there are some who are willing to step up to the plate and take that responsibility on, no matter what sort of flak they receive from naysayers.

It's a good law, and with that being said .. "HEY TEXAS" .. Bring it on ..
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:19 PM
 
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Needless to say: if the USA needs fresh blood; legal immigrants from English speaking nations (Ireland, UK, Australia, Belize, South Africa, India, etc.) need to go to the top of the list followed by folks from other First World nations i.e. France, Germany, Spain, etc. As for the rest of the world like Mexico, let them fight over the rest of the immigration visas.

Why is that?, because you say so?, I don't think so, immigration will continue to be predominantly hispanic, like it or not....
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Why is that?, because you say so?, I don't think so, immigration will continue to be predominantly hispanic, like it or not....
You need to take a look at US history: immigration was relatively open till 1920 when we clamped down on it; then it was opened up again in 1965---------fast forward to 2010 and all of the indicators are in place to slam the door again. If going by 1920 when the Italians and Irish (many of the former returned to Italy leaving the ones who were willing to become Americans) were all but shut out; the USA will quite likely limit large scale immigration from Mexico, etc. today.
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Old 05-05-2010, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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It's a good law, and with that being said .. "HEY TEXAS" .. Bring it on ..
Absolutely - by the time the next session is in there may be some early results of how this is working out in AZ, what the costs and savings are and other factors that come up.
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