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Old 04-29-2010, 12:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Liberals are coming up with weirder and weirder statements as they face the American people's opposition to the amnesty they want to grant to illegal aliens who have broken our immigration laws.

The latest one comes from situations where a husband and wife from another country, enter the U.S. illegally, and then have one or more babies while they are here. They then get caught by ICE and slated for deportation. The kids they had here, are American citizens as our laws are currently interpreted, and of course the government cannot deport such kids.

Then comes the weirdness: Liberals are demanding, what do "WE" do with those kids?

As mentioned, of course, the government has no power to do anything with those kids... nor should they have. The parents are the ones who will decide what will happen with their own kids, of course, not the government. How could it be otherwise?

Obviously, the choices are (a) the parents take their kids with them when they return to their original country, or (b) the parents leave the kids here, in the country of the kids' citizenship, hopefully with trusted friends, family etc. It's a terrible choice to have to make.

But where do our esteemed brethern of the southpaw persuasion, get the idea that it is "WE" (that's liberal-speak for "the government") who should decide what happens with the kids???

I know that leftists often take the attitude that is Government doesn't do something, nobody will do it. That's weird enough, but at least we're used to it. But this one breaks new ground.

Those parents who entered the country illegally, knew the law called for their deportation, and that it would happen as soon as they were caught. Then, incredibly, they brought children into that world, deliberately and knowingly subjecting those kids to being deprived of either their parents, or the land of their birth and citizenship.

What on Earth possessed those parents, to subject their own children to such a cruel choice? Are these people INHUMAN? How can they do that to their kids?

Now they are stuck with that choice - one they saw coming a long time ago. What are their plans? What did they intend to do with their kids, if/when the law caught up to them as they always knew it might?

The question is not, "What are we going to do with their kids?".

The question is, "What are THEY going to do about THEIR OWN kids?".
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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What are they going to do about their own kids is absolutely correct. We shouldn't interfere with their decisions concerning their children. WE need to mind our own business.
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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prob. just wait till BO shoves amenesty down are throats and say "Its the right thing to do."
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:59 AM
 
Location: Long Beach
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Well according to the at little docuament aka the Constitution, anyone born on american soil is get this one, automatically a US citizen.

We do nothing they are here legally. They were never not here in the first place.
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:01 AM
 
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The anchor baby allowance needs to be removed. No more anchor babies!!

The parents decided to test fate by giving birth here. Now they have decision: leave with them or leave them. Pick one. It's not our problem to take care of, it's theirs.
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:09 AM
 
Location: Long Beach
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The anchor baby allowance needs to be removed. No more anchor babies!!

The parents decided to test fate by giving birth here. Now they have decision: leave with them or leave them. Pick one. It's not our problem to take care of, it's theirs.
Well it would take an amendment to the Constitution to do that.

If I go back enough generations, there will be one that wasn't born in the country, but their children were. Should we retroactively strip them of their citizenship, which will affect my citizenship?

Same thing goes for you, and everyone on this forum who isn't of pure Native American descent.

It's how immigration works. They need a path to citizenship and naturalization.
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:56 AM
 
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IMO, this isn't a clear cut issue. I don't think anyone likes the use of the "anchor baby" method of immigration (except for the people that take advantage of it, of course). But, once they're born, they are US citizens, just like the rest of us. When you send their parents back to their country, in most cases, you're also sending a US citizen out of the country. That doesn't seem right - basically forcing a US citizen out of the country because they're a minor.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:06 AM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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The parent is making the choice to leave the child with relatives or take the child. Cut and dried. NO ONE is forcing the child to do anything but the parent, like it should be.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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Well it would take an amendment to the Constitution to do that.

If I go back enough generations, there will be one that wasn't born in the country, but their children were. Should we retroactively strip them of their citizenship, which will affect my citizenship?

Same thing goes for you, and everyone on this forum who isn't of pure Native American descent.

It's how immigration works. They need a path to citizenship and naturalization.
You don't need to amend to constitution to do this. It never allowed anchor babies in the first place.

And if you go back generations the laws were different.

And this arguement about we are all immigrants is nonsense. 90% of us were born here. So we are not even close to being a country og immigrants.

The problem with anchor babies is that the parents have no allegience to this country. None. If you look at the intent of the amendment (I can't remember which one right now) that deals with people born here it was for people that parent's had allegience to the U.S. Not for people that slip in here and give birth to get benefits. Koreans and Vietnamese are bad for this as the Mexicans. I'm surprised the Russians don't do it.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:20 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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IMO, this isn't a clear cut issue. I don't think anyone likes the use of the "anchor baby" method of immigration (except for the people that take advantage of it, of course). But, once they're born, they are US citizens, just like the rest of us. When you send their parents back to their country, in most cases, you're also sending a US citizen out of the country. That doesn't seem right - basically forcing a US citizen out of the country because they're a minor.
We could strip them of their citizenship. They should have never been granted it in the fist place,
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