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Old 04-29-2010, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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"A study of immigrants in Arizona published in 2008 found that non-citizens, mostly in the country illegally, held an estimated 280,000 full-time jobs."

Now legal citizens can migrate to arazona for work.
How did they ever get anyone to even admit to that? And who did they ask?
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:22 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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How did they ever get anyone to even admit to that? And who did they ask?
Estimated, just like how they have no clue how many are in the US. It's probably closer to 20 million.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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That's okay--Silicon Valley can still hire dozens of Indian or Chinese programmers and stack them deep and pay them cheap.
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:35 PM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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That's okay--Silicon Valley can still hire dozens of Indian or Chinese programmers and stack them deep and pay them cheap.
That's what's really sad. The left can scream and holler about human rights violations, but say nary a word about this kind of abuse.
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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The point is--you don't hear much about them. Just the Mexicans who are "destroying this country as we know it".
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:28 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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That's okay--Silicon Valley can still hire dozens of Indian or Chinese programmers and stack them deep and pay them cheap.
Unfortunately, those companies are operating within current laws, they are not breaking any. That's why we really need to restrict green card holders; they are also taking jobs away from Americans. Remember Bill Gates crying about how he needs to import so many thousands of workers for his company? What a slap in the face; none of the thousands of college graduates are 'good enough' to work at his company? No, he'd have to actually pay them a living wage. Greed, pure and simple.

But as I first stated, they are not breaking any laws. Illegal aliens are.
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Unfortunately, those companies are operating within current laws, they are not breaking any. That's why we really need to restrict green card holders; they are also taking jobs away from Americans. Remember Bill Gates crying about how he needs to import so many thousands of workers for his company? What a slap in the face; none of the thousands of college graduates are 'good enough' to work at his company? No, he'd have to actually pay them a living wage. Greed, pure and simple.

But as I first stated, they are not breaking any laws. Illegal aliens are.
They're not legal residents when they come here. It has been well documented that these people are illegal, but ignored by the laws because they're not "trouble".
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:40 PM
 
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They're not legal residents when they come here. It has been well documented that these people are illegal, but ignored by the laws because they're not "trouble".
I don't think you understand the difference here. You can come here on a WORK visa, which most of the people you are mentioning do, and are NOT legal citizens. There is a difference between being a legal CITIZEN and being legal to WORK. You can be legal to work but not be a legal citizen. Companies do abuse this though because they have to prove that they couldn't get an American to do the job in order to get the work visa approved, which they lie about. In these situations all these people would have to produce is a photo ID and their valid work visa.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:23 PM
 
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L.A.'s Great Hispanderer Antonio Villaraigosa can have them.He can't balance LA's budget but he can criticize Arizona.Let them all leave Arizona and go to LA and San Francisco and see how long the welcome lasts.Maybe when they arrive and strain the infrastructure of the State of California even more,the Voters might wisen up and vote out San Frans and LA's mayors next election and keep that trainwreck Brown from being elected Governor.
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