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Old 04-29-2010, 12:37 PM
 
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It is his business. He started it, he runs it. He works for his family and his needs, not for the needs of others. He didn't start a business to support others, only himself. There is no right for government to "force him". As a American working to better himself shouldn't he have the right to have "big government" stay out of his affairs like the way of having government stay out of the affair of business profit with lower taxes? Doesn't he deserve his profit?

All he owes his employees is pay for a job done. It is not his worry if the wage is a "living wage" or not. If a employee isn't satisfied then they should go work somewhere else right?

So given all that, shouldn't a business owner/ CEO be allowed to hire who he wants to profit his business the best way?
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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It is his business. He started it, he runs it. He works for his family and his needs, not for the needs of others. He didn't start a business to support others, only himself. There is no right for government to "force him". As a American working to better himself shouldn't he have the right to have "big government" stay out of his affairs like the way of having government stay out of the affair of business profit with lower taxes? Doesn't he deserve his profit?

All he owes his employees is pay for a job done. It is not his worry if the wage is a "living wage" or not. If a employee isn't satisfied then they should go work somewhere else right?

So given all that, shouldn't a business owner/ CEO be allowed to hire who he wants to profit his business the best way?
NO. Illegals shouldn't be allowed employment within the USA for ANY reason.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:40 PM
 
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Chances are they most likely hire them and don't really know their illegal. Most likely from identity theft.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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NO. Illegals shouldn't be allowed employment within the USA for ANY reason.
I agree.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: 22 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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I say SURE.....as long as he (the company) pays him/her ON THE BOOKS

fact is I dont care about legal status of the worker...I care that the worker illegal OR LEGAL is paying medicare/ss/federal INCOME/state INCOME tax


or we can solve the problem real easy...get rid of the tax system as we know it,,and go to the "fair-tax" a national consumptions tax.... everyone pays

Americans For Fair Taxation: Americans For Fair Taxation
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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How about we just go back to the industrial revolution. That way we can have 70 hour work weeks and triangle shirt waste style tragedies on a regular basis.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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Knowingly providing employment to allow them to continue breaking the law would seem to make you an accessory.
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:05 PM
 
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So far you all are missing some points on the thread. I am actually questioning the quotes of some conservatives that have posted the thoughts above but on different topics.

"My advancement and work is for my family, not for others"

"I don't agree with government force"

"It is not the responsibilty of a business to provide a "livable wage"

and so on

given that, why shouldn't a company be able to hire a illegal and fire a American to save profit?
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:13 PM
 
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So far you all are missing some points on the thread. I am actually questioning the quotes of some conservatives that have posted the thoughts above but on different topics.

"My advancement and work is for my family, not for others"

"I don't agree with government force"

"It is not the responsibilty of a business to provide a "livable wage"

and so on

given that, why shouldn't a company be able to hire a illegal and fire a American to save profit?
I think those statements were probably made with the assumption that the conversation was referring to practices that fall within the law. I didn't say them, but that's my guess.
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:14 PM
 
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So, so far you all are saying a person has obligations other than personal profit and other than as a individual to consider the welfare of the nation besides personal gain?

A business has a opportunity to gain profit by hiring cheaper labor, should they hold back profit and hire someone for higher wages for the sake of the good of others and America?
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