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Old 05-02-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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I laugh at some of the people that post on these blogs.....do a GOOGLE search and look up what Mexico's immigration policy is!!! It is DRACONIAN!!!!!! This country has been a dumping ground for TOO long. I say if we are forced to legalize everyone already here then we build a 50 foot electrified fence on the southern and northern borders with orders to SHOOT anyone attempting to cross. End of Story. Too strong for some of you.....too bad......I say legalize if we must but then we build the wall with the rifles. Everytime we legalize and do NOTHING, they just keep on coming and next thing you know there are 30 million more ILLEGALS (you know, against the law) running around in the country. Enough is enough. You want to come to this country, you do so through legal channels and I would further like the rule that we need what you offer to get into this country ie: doctors, engineers, linguists, architects......specific talents. No MORE dead weight. You want to increase my taxes to build the fence that I DESCRIBED so be it....it sure as hell beats raising my taxes on a bill that was slammed down America's throat that will do NOTHING to reduce medical costs.......
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Old 05-02-2010, 12:01 PM
 
Location: AL
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I laugh at some of the people that post on these blogs.....do a GOOGLE search and look up what Mexico's immigration policy is!!! It is DRACONIAN!!!!!! This country has been a dumping ground for TOO long. I say if we are forced to legalize everyone already here then we build a 50 foot electrified fence on the southern and northern borders with orders to SHOOT anyone attempting to cross. End of Story. Too strong for some of you.....too bad......I say legalize if we must but then we build the wall with the rifles. Everytime we legalize and do NOTHING, they just keep on coming and next thing you know there are 30 million more ILLEGALS (you know, against the law) running around in the country. Enough is enough. You want to come to this country, you do so through legal channels and I would further like the rule that we need what you offer to get into this country ie: doctors, engineers, linguists, architects......specific talents. No MORE dead weight. You want to increase my taxes to build the fence that I DESCRIBED so be it....it sure as hell beats raising my taxes on a bill that was slammed down America's throat that will do NOTHING to reduce medical costs.......

99% agree....I dont agree with legalizing "illegals" that are already here......they need to go and come back the legal way.
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Old 05-02-2010, 12:38 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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I laugh at some of the people that post on these blogs.....do a GOOGLE search and look up what Mexico's immigration policy is!!! It is DRACONIAN!!!!!! This country has been a dumping ground for TOO long. I say if we are forced to legalize everyone already here then we build a 50 foot electrified fence on the southern and northern borders with orders to SHOOT anyone attempting to cross. End of Story. Too strong for some of you.....too bad......I say legalize if we must but then we build the wall with the rifles. Everytime we legalize and do NOTHING, they just keep on coming and next thing you know there are 30 million more ILLEGALS (you know, against the law) running around in the country. Enough is enough. You want to come to this country, you do so through legal channels and I would further like the rule that we need what you offer to get into this country ie: doctors, engineers, linguists, architects......specific talents. No MORE dead weight. You want to increase my taxes to build the fence that I DESCRIBED so be it....it sure as hell beats raising my taxes on a bill that was slammed down America's throat that will do NOTHING to reduce medical costs.......
Weve built 450 miles of 2200 US-Mexico border fence...@ about 14 mil per mile, thats how much math dude...250 bil.
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Old 05-02-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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I laugh at some of the people that post on these blogs.....do a GOOGLE search and look up what Mexico's immigration policy is!!! It is DRACONIAN!!!!!! This country has been a dumping ground for TOO long. I say if we are forced to legalize everyone already here then we build a 50 foot electrified fence on the southern and northern borders with orders to SHOOT anyone attempting to cross. End of Story. Too strong for some of you.....too bad......I say legalize if we must but then we build the wall with the rifles. Everytime we legalize and do NOTHING, they just keep on coming and next thing you know there are 30 million more ILLEGALS (you know, against the law) running around in the country. Enough is enough. You want to come to this country, you do so through legal channels and I would further like the rule that we need what you offer to get into this country ie: doctors, engineers, linguists, architects......specific talents. No MORE dead weight. You want to increase my taxes to build the fence that I DESCRIBED so be it....it sure as hell beats raising my taxes on a bill that was slammed down America's throat that will do NOTHING to reduce medical costs.......
I don't believe Mexico's immigration laws are draconian. They're sensible. Mexico chooses to protect it's jobs for it's own citizens. Plus it protects it's citizens from high taxes by not allowing hundreds of millions of impoverished moving in and expecting to be supported by the Mexican people.

Actually Mexico's whole constitution is fine if you read it. It's tailored to the people of Mexico of course and it does protect them. It's where Mexican laws aren't enforced (just like in the USA) where the break down occurs.
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Old 05-02-2010, 12:44 PM
 
Location: AL
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Weve built 450 miles of 2200 US-Mexico border fence...@ about 14 mil per mile, thats how much math dude...250 bil.
I'll pay that and more if it works...In the long run we would save money.

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I don't believe Mexico's immigration laws are draconian. They're sensible. Mexico chooses to protect it's jobs for it's own citizens. Plus it protects it's citizens from high taxes by not allowing hundreds of millions of impoverished moving in and expecting to be supported by the Mexican people.

Actually Mexico's whole constitution is fine if you read it. It's tailored to the people of Mexico of course and it does protect them. It's where Mexican laws aren't enforced (just like in the USA) where the break down occurs.
100% agree
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Old 05-02-2010, 04:26 PM
 
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Weve built 450 miles of 2200 US-Mexico border fence...@ about 14 mil per mile, thats how much math dude...250 bil.
Well "dude" it is a necessary evil just like any other security measures we have had to take to protect our country. I haven't seen one complaint out of you how many billions that these illegals have cost us but you bring up how much it is costing us to protect our borders against them?

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Old 05-02-2010, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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And that is a very good question.

Why is the USA to be the only nation in the world with no immigration laws of any kind?

And no other nation in the world takes in as many LEGAL immigrants as does the USA. The USA has by far more legal immigrants than any other nation.

The open borders side isn't content with that -- they want no limits of any kind placed on immigration. That's why in spite of high unemployment rates they want a free-for-all coming over the border.

In spite of over 10% unemployment nationwide and over 25% in many cities, with Mexico's unemployment rate at 4.8%, the pro-illegals still want massive immigration.
Can I have some?
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Old 05-02-2010, 04:34 PM
 
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Who is calling for a open border? where do you get these Ideas that America wants a open border? then how do you equate open border to a dumping ground...?

What is your point? open border or dumping grounds?
Seriously. The only way they justify their hard stance, and unwillingness to consider reform(aka CHANGE. IMPROVEMENT. PROGRESSION.) is to make the other side seem as evil as possible.

You can't convince them that this isn't about "no borders", or that the pro-reform movement is largely American, and that all illegals aren't murderers/molesters/devious people who hate Americans.

They're not grounded in reality, and are stuck in dramatic, emotional, exaggerated rhetoric.
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Old 05-02-2010, 04:38 PM
 
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Seriously. The only way they justify their hard stance, and unwillingness to consider reform(aka CHANGE. IMPROVEMENT. PROGRESSION.) is to make the other side seem as evil as possible.

You can't convince them that this isn't about "no borders", or that the pro-reform movement is largely American, and that all illegals aren't murderers/molesters/devious people who hate Americans.

They're not grounded in reality, and are stuck in dramatic, emotional, exaggerated rhetoric.
No, what you described in your last sentence in particular is the rhetoric of the illegal alien advocates. We have been made out to be the evil and racist ones and you damn well know that. It doesn't matter that not all illegals are murderers, etc. and it is a lie to claim that we have made them so. The only thing important here is that they are here illegally and need to go home.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:43 PM
 
Location: AL
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Again.......What part of "illegal" dont people understand?
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