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Old 06-13-2007, 11:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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I vote for a moritorium on all immigration until we get this mess straightened out. Those currently in the process or waiting legally should be taken care of, but after that, no more until our elected representation begins enforcing our current immigration laws and stops trying to force feed us amnesty.
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:58 PM
 
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I vote for a moritorium on all immigration until we get this mess straightened out. Those currently in the process or waiting legally should be taken care of, but after that, no more until our elected representation begins enforcing our current immigration laws and stops trying to force feed us amnesty.
I agree, lock the door for now. In the 1950s we had about 150 million people here. So in only 50 years we have doubled our population. The result is many states like California have trouble providing services, especially water and power.

We need to close the door for a while, at least until we get a handle on everything because we are in a position where other nations and citizens of other nations, frequently criminals, are setting our immigration policies. Once control is obtained then we need to look at several issues. But the primary factor in determining who gets in should be our needs not race. We want educated immigrants who can contribute to America. Not uneducated people who sneak in and collect much more in freebies than they contribute.

Once we have our house in order I don't think it should matter who comes in as long as we don't see leaches on our society. Which has frequently been the case over the last two generations.
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:01 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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I agree, lock the door for now. In the 1950s we had about 150 million people here. So in only 50 years we have doubled our population. The result is many states like California have trouble providing services, especially water and power.

We need to close the door for a while, at least until we get a handle on everything because we are in a position where other nations and citizens of other nations, frequently criminals, are setting our immigration policies. Once control is obtained then we need to look at several issues. But the primary factor in determining who gets in should be our needs not race. We want educated immigrants who can contribute to America. Not uneducated people who sneak in and collect much more in freebies than they contribute.

Once we have our house in order I don't think it should matter who comes in as long as we don't see leaches on our society. Which has frequently been the case over the last two generations.

AMEN Hawkeye. That's some good preachin'!
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:54 AM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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Thumbs up Exactly right!

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I agree, lock the door for now. In the 1950s we had about 150 million people here. So in only 50 years we have doubled our population. The result is many states like California have trouble providing services, especially water and power.

We need to close the door for a while, at least until we get a handle on everything because we are in a position where other nations and citizens of other nations, frequently criminals, are setting our immigration policies. Once control is obtained then we need to look at several issues. But the primary factor in determining who gets in should be our needs not race. We want educated immigrants who can contribute to America. Not uneducated people who sneak in and collect much more in freebies than they contribute.

Once we have our house in order I don't think it should matter who comes in as long as we don't see leaches on our society. Which has frequently been the case over the last two generations.
Amen to that!
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:24 AM
 
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The gates should have been shut 25 years ago. We need to have balance and order in our home land.
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:12 AM
 
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American racial makeup is going to change in the next 100 years and the decision of today's Congress will effect our Country for the next 1000 years. Much of our Country in 100 years will be the offspring of immigrants who will be coming into America due to the soon to be passed Immigration Bill. (Yes, something will be passed and it will flood the country with IMMIGRANTS)

Should Congress allow more people to immigrate to America from Asia, Africa or Latin America? Currently 2/3 of the world's population is from Asia, so should they get 2/3 of the slots? Or should we allow more people from Latin America because it is more practical because they are speaking a language that people already know in many cases?

What would be the pros and cons of each?
If things keep going the way it's going now America wont be here in 100 years.
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:24 AM
 
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Good people can still be voted in office Dingler, do you listen to talk radio? If we have a defeatist attitude how can we ever succeed?
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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The large increase in population in certain states has been due not just to immigration from outside the U.S., but interstate migration. I would wager that a retired Midwestern CEO who just has to have a manicured yard and 6,000 square foot house in the middle of the desert in Arizona has a much bigger impact on electrical and water resources, and is far more responsible for shortages of these, than an illegal Mexican immigrant living with 3 other immigrants in the same state.

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Old 12-16-2010, 08:31 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The large increase in population in certain states has been due not just to immigration from outside the U.S., but interstate migration. I would wager that a retired Midwestern CEO who just has to have a manicured yard and 6,000 square foot house in the middle of the desert in Arizona has a much bigger impact on electrical and water resources, and is far more responsible for shortages of these, than an illegal Mexican immigrant living with 3 other immigrants in the same state.
The CEO earned the right to live how he wants. If in the future a moratorium is put on the amount of water or utilities Americans can use, so be it. But until then, any American has the right to have as big an impact on resources as they think they need.

Illegal aliens do not have the right to any of our resources, at all.

And, please, which of the 50 states has only four illegal aliens?
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:38 AM
 
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The CEO earned the right to live how he wants. If in the future a moratorium is put on the amount of water or utilities Americans can use, so be it. But until then, any American has the right to have as big an impact on resources as they think they need.

Illegal aliens do not have the right to any of our resources, at all.

And, please, which of the 50 states has only four illegal aliens?
Agreed on all points. We have over 300 million people in this country already. We sure don't need to continue to add illegal aliens to the mix making more demands on our natural resources.
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