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View Poll Results: Do you support the amended AZ bill?
Yes, I support the bill now that it has been restricted 12 29.27%
No, I support the old bill, they should never have changed it 8 19.51%
I wish they would have made a stronger bill 11 26.83%
I am still against the bill (please explain why) 10 24.39%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-03-2010, 05:12 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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NO, that's the old law. Now you have charged them with a Criminal Offense.
They must have a hearing, and have no money to pay the $2,500 fine
Under the NEW LAW if your city does not charge them with a Criminal Offense F.A.I.R. in Kansas will sue you.

Mustard on half of those 460,00 sandwiches please


No money to pay the 2500 fine?
Sounds like a good program for the highway department, to get some roads fixed!!!

Hell ya, chain gangs!! Make it tough on them and they will not want to come back for any job here.
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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So what are your ideas on the situation? Open borders? CIR? More comments about sandwiches and being more scared of the fascists in AZ than the socialists in DC?
Unlike so many others, I can see the border from my patio. Yes we need the US Army to secure the US from DRUG SMUGGLERS, who are heavily armed. That does not mean we should scapegoat our problems on illegals who are here.
The people who wrote this law are in Kansas and wrote it so they could make millions . The legislator who introduced it has ties to Neo Nazis and sent out thousands of anti semetic emails.
If you want laws like these pass them in California, I'm sure you don't need any illegals in the central valley.
You can pick your own
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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Unlike so many others, I can see the border from my patio. Yes we need the US Army to secure the US from DRUG SMUGGLERS, who are heavily armed.
Agreed.

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That does not mean we should scapegoat our problems on illegals who are here.
Not all of our problems, no. But they are a problem, a big problem, and that probelm needs to be addressed, and it is in AZ.

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The people who wrote this law are in Kansas and wrote it so they could make millions . The legislator who introduced it has ties to Neo Nazis and sent out thousands of anti semetic emails.
Holy conspiricy theory Batman!


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If you want laws like these pass them in California,
Yes please!

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I'm sure you don't need any illegals in the central valley.
You can pick your own
I'm more of a meat and potatoes guy, so I'll live with out the produce. Thanks for thinking of me though.
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Old 05-03-2010, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Unlike so many others, I can see the border from my patio. Yes we need the US Army to secure the US from DRUG SMUGGLERS, who are heavily armed. That does not mean we should scapegoat our problems on illegals who are here.
The people who wrote this law are in Kansas and wrote it so they could make millions . The legislator who introduced it has ties to Neo Nazis and sent out thousands of anti semetic emails.
If you want laws like these pass them in California, I'm sure you don't need any illegals in the central valley.
You can pick your own
Donít stop now. Share the evidence.
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Old 05-03-2010, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Agreed.



Not all of our problems, no. But they are a problem, a big problem, and that probelm needs to be addressed, and it is in AZ.



Holy conspiricy theory Batman!




Yes please!



I'm more of a meat and potatoes guy, so I'll live with out the produce. Thanks for thinking of me though.
Yeah like the economy of the Central Valley isn't totally dependent on Immigrant Workers. How about MANDATORY JAIL TIME FOR ANYONE HIRING ILLEGALS
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I think it is now more reflective of what the Federal Law is, hence, what is the necessity? The Federal Law just needs to be enforced.
Local LE doesn't enforce federal law, that's why there's a need.....and no it's not reflective of what the federal law is. If you've ever driven north on the interstate from San Diego, then you know federal immigration officers stop ever car for no reason other than to check citizenship. If it's backed-up, they'll let some cars through without questioning them.....that's profiling. Also they don't just stop cars heading north, they stop vehicles going into Mexico too. Here's an article from 5/08 explaining how authorities board buses heading for Mexico and pull people off that don't have proper doumentation:

The new in 'n' out - immigration checkpoints in San Diego | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Local LE doesn't enforce federal law, that's why there's a need.....and no it's not reflective of what the federal law is. If you've ever driven north on the interstate from San Diego, then you know federal immigration officers stop ever car for no reason other than to check citizenship. If it's backed-up, they'll let some cars through without questioning them.....that's profiling. Also they don't just stop cars heading north, they stop vehicles going into Mexico too. Here's an article from 5/08 explaining how authorities board buses heading for Mexico and pull people off that don't have proper doumentation:

The new in 'n' out - immigration checkpoints in San Diego | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times
Then why is it that the Pima County Sherriff deports more with the Federal Law than Maricopa? If you start jailing employers like cochise county did perhaps there would be progress. The problem on the border is DRUG SMUGGLING, that is the root of the violence. The person who buys the marijuana is more at fault than the illegals
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Don’t stop now. Share the evidence.


Here he is with the head of the local Neo Nazi movement, please read the statement from JD Hayword at the bottom. So anyone who is not Arayan can pretty much forget being part of their """Real America"""

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqH_unPs8SQ
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yeah like the economy of the Central Valley isn't totally dependent on Immigrant Workers. How about MANDATORY JAIL TIME FOR ANYONE HIRING ILLEGALS
I would support that 100%!
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Here he is with the head of the local Neo Nazi movement, please read the statement from JD Hayword at the bottom. So anyone who is not Arayan can pretty much forget being part of their """Real America"""


YouTube - neo-Nazi White Supremacists supporting Sheriff Joe Arpaio
Thanks, but Iím afraid I would need a little more evidence than this. A picture can be easily superimposed. Also, do you have a copy of the email?

How is this video relevant to your accusation?
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